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Always been a Canon guy....looking to get my first full frame. Nikon D750 or 5D MK III?

 
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Dec 28, 2014 18:47 |  #31

Village_Idiot wrote in post #17354756 (external link)
Nikon have a 70-200 f/2.8.

Indeed. And the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II is every bit as good as the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L II. Now that I have a D810, I am seriously considering selling my Canon and getting the superb Nikon version.


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Dec 28, 2014 20:22 as a reply to  @ post 17354756 |  #32

I know ... it's just not as good as the Canon version. I have the 70-200 f/2.8 VR, which is a good lens, but nowhere near as good as the Canon, especially wide open at 200mm (where I'd like to use it the most), and the 70-200VRII is sharper across the range (as good as the Canon) but has way too much focus breathing.

Nikon needs to revisit their 70-200 f/2.8 design and come up with a lens that is a bit closer to the Canon offering and not a lens that is only 134mm when fully zoomed at the close focus distance.


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Dec 29, 2014 13:49 |  #33

Depends on what youre shooting, for landscapes I would go for Nikon because greater DR. However if you have Canon lenses already I would go for 5D3 or 6D. 6D has slightly better hing ISO performance and DR than 5D3.

Ive shot both Nikon and Canon, in my opinion its not worth swiching because after all you dont know the diffrence unless you do side-by-side comparison.
Both of them are good enough to make great images. So is any camera, its not the gear its the photographer behind the gear that makes those images. In my opinion camera is just a tool, why to argue over who has better screwdriver when any screwdriver will work?


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Dec 29, 2014 14:25 |  #34

Photo123 is giving you good advice. And like Tim said: one of the best wedding photographers in the country uses Canon equipment but doesn't take images that are as sharp as a Nikon camera can take, and yet he's still the best in the country. So that must be proof that it doesn't matter whether you use a Nikon or a Canon, the pictures all come out looking amazing either way.




  
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Jan 08, 2015 11:03 |  #35

tim wrote in post #17321715 (external link)
When I switched from Canon to Nikon my keeper rate went up immediately. I'd done a LOT of research on how AF works, CPS did calibrations, tests included tripod and such. My gear just wouldn't focus accurately. Newer gear may be better.

It definitely is!! You should have stuck around for the 5DIII :)

I too had a horrible time with the 5DII. Wanted to throw it against a wall sometimes esp with the 85L (though I'd have taken the 85 off first!!), but the 5DIII is night and day better.

I honestly can't remember the last time I got an OOF image f2.8 or above , and even at f1.2 my focus hit rate is above 95% on a stationary target and probably around 90% on kids running round and having fun (outdoors).

Over the last couple of weeks I've probably shot about 750 frames in my home studio (too cold to be out shooting right now in NY!) and I don't think I've seen a single one be out of focus (most, if not all of those were at f2.8 - f4.5, but even so...)



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Jan 28, 2015 17:58 |  #36

Good thread, i dont have much invested in lenses and have a 60D so I would make the jump to D750 for the full frame and reasonable price compared to the 5DIII. Plus tax returns make it a perfect time to shop around.




  
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Jan 31, 2015 00:08 |  #37

Be prepared to deal with the learning curve. I played with my friend's D800 several times. It's difficult for me as I never used a Nikon previously.


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Feb 10, 2015 08:50 |  #38

Bob_A wrote in post #17355007 (external link)
I know ... it's just not as good as the Canon version. I have the 70-200 f/2.8 VR, which is a good lens, but nowhere near as good as the Canon, especially wide open at 200mm (where I'd like to use it the most), and the 70-200VRII is sharper across the range (as good as the Canon) but has way too much focus breathing.

Nikon needs to revisit their 70-200 f/2.8 design and come up with a lens that is a bit closer to the Canon offering and not a lens that is only 134mm when fully zoomed at the close focus distance.

Correct. Neither of the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 or f4 are nearly as sharp as their Canon counterparts.


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Feb 10, 2015 09:04 |  #39

Jon_Doh wrote in post #17425212 (external link)
Correct. Neither of the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 or f4 are nearly as sharp as their Canon counterparts.

Are you sure about the F4? All the reviews seem to indicate that it's slightly sharper than the Canon F4 IS. I know TDP shows it being softer but since he's the only one with that results I would tend to believe he has a soft copy or made a mistake in the testing.


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Feb 13, 2015 15:05 as a reply to  @ Jon_Doh's post |  #40

Does the Canon suffer from the same "focus breathing" as Nikon? As I recall the Nikon at 200mm can be as short as 128 at some distances.


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Feb 14, 2015 16:55 |  #41

Fujifilmnut wrote in post #17430580 (external link)
Does the Canon suffer from the same "focus breathing" as Nikon? As I recall the Nikon at 200mm can be as short as 128 at some distances.

All lenses suffering from focus breathing to some extent, but the 70-200L II should have less of an issue than the Nikon. The Nikon has a effective magnification of 0.12x at 1.4m (MFD), while the Canon has 0.21x at 1.2m (MFD), so it should be quite a bit better.




  
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Feb 17, 2015 06:35 as a reply to  @ frankchn's post |  #42

Thank you, that is helpful. Looks like I will go with the f/4 version as it performs very well and costs much less.


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Feb 17, 2015 08:14 |  #43

frankchn wrote in post #17431915 (external link)
All lenses suffering from focus breathing to some extent, but the 70-200L II should have less of an issue than the Nikon. The Nikon has a effective magnification of 0.12x at 1.4m (MFD), while the Canon has 0.21x at 1.2m (MFD), so it should be quite a bit better.

The Canon version actual increases focal length as you approach MFD.


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Feb 18, 2015 03:31 |  #44

Jon_Doh wrote in post #17425212 (external link)
Correct. Neither of the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 or f4 are nearly as sharp as their Canon counterparts.

Really think its horses for courses i've shot with all three lenses, and unless you are splitting pixels there isnt a lot in it. The 70 - 200 vrii does have focus breath issues, I found it like using a 135mm at times. There really isnt much in that comparison.

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