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Anyone with Pentax 645Z?

 
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Dec 16, 2014 11:16 |  #16

I have been looking at the 645D, as they are getting dirt cheap on the used market. Not as advanced as the 645Z but still a solid performer.


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Jan 04, 2015 17:35 |  #17

I've hired a 645z over Christmas and whilst my thoughts on the camera will be written up in a blog post, it handles beautifully and whilst it has it's shortcomings I fully intend to bring it into my wedding workflow.

I'll still use my 1DX but the Z is actually lighter in many instances and feels more like the 5D3 in use than the large body of the 1DX. Image quality is superb and jumps all over my 1DX or 5D3.... smacks it down and sends it home. You can put that in part down to the larger MP, larger sensor and better sensor overall.

I'll be interested to see what Canon comes up with in the near future as the general speed of the 645z is the only real down side. (Image preview speed and AF speed. AF in low light is totally rubbish.

The ISO is clean right up to 12800 and you can push that 2 stops more in post. For me there's no need to worry about flash sync or their fastest lens being 2.8 - Not with such a high ISO available.


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Jan 04, 2015 17:41 |  #18

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Jan 09, 2015 05:47 |  #19

Can't beat the Rez here.
2nd bride really got the advantage of medium format.
Really shinning and TFS.


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Jan 13, 2015 05:01 |  #20

Would love to hire it but I am not aware of anywhere in Australia that offers it.


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Dec 02, 2015 13:28 |  #21

I can't decide between 645z and 5dsr. I found very good deal on Pentax 645Z, but i have so many sweet L canon lenses :). Most of the jobs i have are with people and about people, no landscapes. The Pentax kit include 50mm 2.8 and 33-55, so no amazing lenses.
I have no background in medium format, i can't speak about Pentax variety of lenses.

Some opinions please?



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Dec 02, 2015 13:37 as a reply to  @ adned's post |  #22

I would get Sony A7rII.


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Dec 02, 2015 13:44 |  #23

For professional use, i don't trust in one card camera. Thanks for advice!



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Dec 02, 2015 13:53 |  #24

bobbyz wrote in post #17804807 (external link)
I would get Sony A7rII.

I agree and did.

I gave my brother in law my A7Rii with a Metabones IV and with my Canon 24-70 F2.8 II for my wedding, I also had a real pro who shot with a 5D3 and a number of lenses, I got all the raws in addition to the Pros jpegs, and I can tell you that the Sony Files were amazing. I set the camera up for my brother-in-law with Auto ISO, F4 and min shutter speed 1/60th and his keeper rate was unbelievably high + the colours were fantastic. We have created so many large prints for various family members from his work it is funny (I spent enormous time editing them but the quality of the files was off the charts)

Not that I wouldn't happily take a 645Z if it fell off the back of a truck - because I would.

I also have a 5DSR and use it as my main wedding camera with either 70-200 2.8II, Sigma 24-105 F4 IS, 35 F2 IS, 100L Macro, and believe it or not the 100-400II as my paparazzi wedding lens / camera - I only use IS lenses on the 5DSR.

On the A7Rii, I use the 24-70 F2.8 II in silent mode during ceremonies and the 50L, 85L & 135L for portraits (IBIS on this camera is amazing)


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Dec 02, 2015 14:09 |  #25

A7rII+metabones= 3600 usd..In my country 30% more. The IQ of Sony A7rII is very good (i had a7r with excelent IQ also) but i can't trust to use it all season, day by day in different weather conditions.
And for me, A7R II, is too expensive. For A7r i paid 800 euros second hand, that's no damage my wallet :)



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Dec 04, 2015 21:32 |  #26

Alveric wrote in post #17315451 (external link)
5D's are 1/200. The 6D is 1/160. With some radio systems you lose an extra third of a stop; so it'd be 1/160 on the 5D and 1/125 on the 6D. That's already effectively 1 stop from the 1/250 of the top grade models. Believe me, it does make a difference.

6D is 1/180 ;-)a

Go into custom functions and change stop increments from 1/3 to 1/2 :-D


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Dec 09, 2015 07:22 |  #27

adned wrote in post #17804796 (external link)
I can't decide between 645z and 5dsr. I found very good deal on Pentax 645Z, but i have so many sweet L canon lenses :). Most of the jobs i have are with people and about people, no landscapes. The Pentax kit include 50mm 2.8 and 33-55, so no amazing lenses.
I have no background in medium format, i can't speak about Pentax variety of lenses.

Some opinions please?

I have the 645Z and 150mm 2.8, pretty killer combo for portraits. It's really up to you whether you want to stick with Canon or not, the Z does have a more detailed image despite almost the same # of pixels, as well as more DR, but how relevant it is for portraiture depends on the nature of your shoot. If you do anything remotely fashion-related, the way it renders fabrics and other fine details under flash much over the 5DS could be a big thing to consider, as they're much more defined.

You really should try to use these cameras for yourself as I can't really explain how it is with just words. One thing's for sure, even with the release of the 5DS and A7RII I don't feel the least bit of buyer's remorse with going the 645Z route. I still have my Canon and 24-70 for when I need to be on the run, but all the other stuff has been sold off.


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Dec 15, 2015 03:55 as a reply to  @ Kolor-Pikker's post |  #28

Thank you very much for your response! I'll stay for the moment with 5DSR and MKIII, 645Z was very attractive kit, but too many cameras in my bag.



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Dec 19, 2015 10:16 |  #29

I'm confused, the OP asks about a medium format body(giant sensor) and suggestions are to get a mirrorless Sony body.


I've used the 645z, it produces beautiful images, better then any dslr I've ever used.

If I had the spare cash for the body and some lenses, I'd get one in a heartbeat over any Sony mirrorless.


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Dec 19, 2015 15:04 as a reply to  @ DisrupTer911's post |  #30

Would be nice to see comparisons with 645z against A7rII. Like I mentioned I talked with a co-worker who had tried 645z and his opinion was pentax glass on that body is not great. This is from some one who has used top of the class stuff. On canon he shoots 1dx and let me try his Sony A7rII which was awes some BTW. Other concern I see is the need to use tripod for lot of situations where I would be shooting HH, even portraits.


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