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Jan 04, 2015 06:15 |  #2776

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Dom, left field suggestion, what about a Sony A7 (or if you have the money A7R)? I prefer it to the 5D3 and you can use other lenses, I use Canon EF lenses on it, and I have a Zeiss 135mm made for a Contax fit. Think of all those old Leica and Zeiss lens you could get, for portrait shoots.
The down side is it eats batteries.

The reason for going for a Mamiya 645AFD is the fact it's medium format the sensor is twice the size of a DSLR ful frame so the IQ is so much better it's the same as when you look at a 35mm shot compared to a 120 medium format film shot. I if do go for a DSLR it woul;d be the 5diii as you can now pick one up for about £1500 because the 5div will be out soon.


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Jan 04, 2015 11:03 as a reply to  @ post 17365121 |  #2777

OK Klystron, thanks for your comments.

I am aware of the signal shielding effect of the metal body - I spent a lot of my proper job as an EMC consultant on radio stations among other duties connected with cellular radio development and trouble-shooting - but my point is that canon could have easily got over the problem if it wanted to. Although I do see some of the potential problems, possibly noise and patterning on the image etc.

What I am more concerned with is the fact that the exposure meter doesn't appear at the bottom of the viewfinder window - instead it appears faintly vertically on the RHS of the viewfinder and it is damned near impossible to see in normal daylight. Now, as I tend to shoot mainly in manual mode it makes life more difficult.
I suppose I could adapt my shooting to Av or Tv modes - or even the green box mode.

I like the large format digital idea - having once owned a 'Blad' but I dunno how I could justify it.

Any other comments on the 7D2 would be interesting.


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Jan 04, 2015 11:37 |  #2778

Ray I think I'd have the same problem as you with the exposure meter at the side it's more natural to look down when composing than to the side plus the exposure meter has been at the bottom of the viewfinder on every camera I've own.


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Jan 04, 2015 13:17 |  #2779

Here's some from today's walk with the dog all natural light which was a tad harsh.

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Jan 04, 2015 13:59 |  #2780

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OK Klystron, thanks for your comments.

I am aware of the signal shielding effect of the metal body - I spent a lot of my proper job as an EMC consultant on radio stations among other duties connected with cellular radio development and trouble-shooting - but my point is that canon could have easily got over the problem if it wanted to. Although I do see some of the potential problems, possibly noise and patterning on the image etc.

What I am more concerned with is the fact that the exposure meter doesn't appear at the bottom of the viewfinder window - instead it appears faintly vertically on the RHS of the viewfinder and it is damned near impossible to see in normal daylight. Now, as I tend to shoot mainly in manual mode it makes life more difficult.
I suppose I could adapt my shooting to Av or Tv modes - or even the green box mode.

I like the large format digital idea - having once owned a 'Blad' but I dunno how I could justify it.

Any other comments on the 7D2 would be interesting.

OK when I was a boy (and that is many years ago). I had a Practica MTL 3. And the light level meter was on the side, so its nothing new, and you will get use to it. ;-)a

I think for what the 7D2 was aimed for, does it need Wi-Fi ? maybe the answer is they should supply it with external removable antennas ? I would sooner have a camera with a metal body and when it gets dropped it survives.


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Jan 04, 2015 15:36 |  #2781

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OK when I was a boy (and that is many years ago). I had a Practica MTL 3. And the light level meter was on the side, so its nothing new, and you will get use to it. ;-)a

I think for what the 7D2 was aimed for, does it need Wi-Fi ? maybe the answer is they should supply it with external removable antennas ? I would sooner have a camera with a metal body and when it gets dropped it survives.


OK Klystron, fine - Let's put a 5/8 whip on it then - or a 20db collinear connected with a bit of LDF50.

My main gripe about the exposure meter is that it is too difficult/dim to read.

Anyway - I suppose I'll just have to get used to it. I have recorded the complaint with Canon to see if a future firmware download can restore the exposure meter to its original position. (I won't hold my breath, though)


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Jan 05, 2015 06:14 as a reply to  @ post 17362209 |  #2782

I did a lot of research on this before I chose the 6D including hiring both for side by side testing and from what I learned, it's hard to see why you would be interested in the 5D MKIII. The biggest difference between the 2 cameras is the AF system. The 5D has an extremely complex system (which seems a lot like the 7D MKII) which makes it an awesome choice for sports and wildlife (particularly BIF). However, for those of us into portrait and landscapes, the 6D does all that the 5D can minus a couple of mp and a lower frame rate. The IQ from the 6D is as good (and some argue better) than the 5D, noise handling is certainly better and being able to focus at -3EV vs -2 EV is also a big advantage to me. Then the £1K difference in price is also a big issue and frankly, although cost was not a factor, it was certainly a huge benefit to this descision. As regards your MF plans, I cannot help.


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Jan 05, 2015 06:16 as a reply to  @ post 17364407 |  #2783

Hi Ray - long time no see. As you will see from my earlier posts, I have now upgraded to the 6D and was interested to learn why you went for the 7D MKII.


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Jan 05, 2015 09:06 |  #2784

You make a very strong argument for the 6D there JD, interesting. :)

So I picked up my camera on Boxing day with a firm resolution to use it more and promptly dropped it on thekitchen floor. Broke my 24-70L -? Oops a daisy!


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Jan 05, 2015 12:02 as a reply to  @ Jonathan's post |  #2785

Having use a 5D3 for sports. I can tell you its not a sports camera. Scot Kelby did a blog on the 7D2 and he said the 5D3 is not a sports camera.
The AF is not the same as the 7D2. Dispite what it looks like.


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Jan 05, 2015 13:40 |  #2786

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Having use a 5D3 for sports. I can tell you its not a sports camera. Scot Kelby did a blog on the 7D2 and he said the 5D3 is not a sports camera.
The AF is not the same as the 7D2. Dispite what it looks like.

But the 5D3 beats the 7D in the AF department though lacks the crop 'advantage' and the few extra FPS. Much as I respect Scott Kelby I would like to see the context of his statement. So yes the 7D2 is clearly a step up in relative focal length and they have given it a 1DX like AF compared to the 5D3 but the 5D3 is no slouch IMO...............and and given the £'s I would add the 7D2 to my kit but not yet. Hmmm! the 7D will have to go first but the SH values are now stupid low :( As I mentioned above new glass first :)


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Jan 05, 2015 14:05 |  #2787

A 5d3 can now be found for around the £1500 it's not much more than a 6d or a 7d2 when it comes down to it it's what your happy with and get on with. I don't think there is any right or wrong answer do what JD and Cindy did and try before you buy and see what you like.


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Jan 05, 2015 15:47 as a reply to  @ Box Brownie's post |  #2788

But have you actually used the 5D3 for fast action shots ?
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Jan 05, 2015 16:00 as a reply to  @ Ray.Petri's post |  #2789

Ray, thats going a bit far, but I do have a co-linear for the Wi-Fi band that would give you extra range. Even a 1/4 wave would do. Or if they had not fitted the pop up flash. It would have made more room for a bigger antenna.

I had not noticed the level meter, having looked at it now, I dont think its too bad, but it is a case of getting used to it.


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Jan 05, 2015 16:44 as a reply to  @ Jonathan's post |  #2790

Hi Jonathan

Nice to hear from you all. Seems we've all had a few camera changes - I did consider the 6D for the reasons Jonathan has given - I also considered the 5D3, but I put that idea on ice due to the fact that there will probably be a 5D4 soon and the 5D3 will be out. But I like the crop sensor cameras for that extra bit of tele. I have got the feeling I might be using the Av and Tv modes more now because of the useless exposure meter display.

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