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The Lure of the Dark Side: A Long Time Canon's User's Switch to Nikon D750

 
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Dec 30, 2014 02:18 |  #1

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Hello everyone, long time no talk on this forum for me. I recently acquired a Nikon D750 and wanted to share my thoughts on it as a long time Canon user. I wrote an article about my experience with a bunch of example photos so that you can see what type of quality images this camera produces. The ergonomics and color curves/tones of the photos are slightly different between the two brands and I hope this write up will help anyone who is thinking about making the switch. It's not meant to be an in depth review, more a general user and shooting experience.

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Dec 30, 2014 02:30 |  #2

That's a very good users review. As a long time D700 owner that started with Canon and swapped over, but who's since several times dipped back in there for a bargain pro second body, I'm happy using ether brand, but tend to prefer the Nikon usability overall.


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Dec 30, 2014 04:16 |  #3

Very interesting review. I'm looking at FF, and sharp images are my first goal. Some people say 5DIII is even better in AF? But I suppose (like everybody else) that Canon brings out a follow up for that one soon.




  
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Dec 30, 2014 14:17 |  #4

Autofocus with center points is excellent on both cameras as both have cross type focus points there. But only the 5D Mark III has cross focus points on their outer focus area.


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Dec 30, 2014 14:42 |  #5

The D750 is a great camera. Looking at shots taken side by side with my 5D3 I'm impressed at the the advantage in dynamic range the Nikon enjoys. I've gone over to Nikon twice before but each time Canon's glass has pulled me back. Nice write up.


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Dec 30, 2014 14:47 |  #6

The website isn't loading. Very interested in this write up.

edit: its working now, was down for 5 minutes or so.




  
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Dec 30, 2014 16:40 |  #7

Great review and great camera! Love my 6D but If I was starting over it would be with Nikon,as Canon is falling farther behind.


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Dec 31, 2014 09:33 |  #8

canon rookie wrote in post #17357969 (external link)
Great review and great camera! Love my 6D but If I was starting over it would be with Nikon,as Canon is falling farther behind.

It tends to be cyclical. If you're buying into a system brand new, then yes Nikon looks appealing now. But unless you have a necessity to change, the moment that someone makes a huge wholesale change to the other side, the system you left will see improvements.

I'll be very interested to see if/when Canon puts out a 5DMarkIV and an 1DXMark II how many people who switched to Nikon will switch back.


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Jan 05, 2015 11:18 |  #9

TMaG82 wrote in post #17358908 (external link)
It tends to be cyclical. If you're buying into a system brand new, then yes Nikon looks appealing now. But unless you have a necessity to change, the moment that someone makes a huge wholesale change to the other side, the system you left will see improvements.

I'll be very interested to see if/when Canon puts out a 5DMarkIV and an 1DXMark II how many people who switched to Nikon will switch back.


It used to be cyclical, but Canon has been behind Nikon for several years. Canon stays in somewhat competitive because of their lens lineup and the fact that overall quality of their product is better. Nikon has had problems with every full frame camera they've released in the past couple of years. It's interesting to look at Canon's ads. Once upon a time their ads stressed the superiority of their camera's features like having 24 mp in the 1DS when Nikon topped out at 12. Or shooting at 10fps with the 1D Mark III. Now their ads talk about what a great lens line up they have and how their customer service is superior. Canon knows they're behind but what are they going to do about it - come out with a 50mp camera with poor dynamic range?


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Jan 05, 2015 11:24 |  #10

Jon_Doh wrote in post #17367297 (external link)
It used to be cyclical, but Canon has been behind Nikon for several years. ...

I'd argue that Nikon was far behind Canon in digital from 2001-2008. It was not at all cyclical during that extended period. The cyclical nature is that now Nikon has been ahead for sensors (since using SONY) for the last few years.


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Jan 05, 2015 11:45 |  #11

Nice article! I too found this to be a pain:

....But once again, it also takes two hands to change autofocus modes and choose focus points. Changing white balance also requires two hands! This is was very counterintuitive for me....


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Jan 05, 2015 18:35 |  #12

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17367303 (external link)
I'd argue that Nikon was far behind Canon in digital from 2001-2008. It was not at all cyclical during that extended period. The cyclical nature is that now Nikon has been ahead for sensors (since using SONY) for the last few years.

Right on the money here.

For seven years, Nikon offered nothing but 1.5X sensor size and used a CCD technology that was much noisier than Canon. Canon's 1.6X format sensors offered a significant (1 stop?) noise advantage over Nikon at what was high ISO back then (ISO 800) and Canon's FF sensors were another stop better than that. Canon's $3000 5D camera beat the Nikon D2 and D2x in noise by a lot. The whole time, Nikon said that 1.5X was the future and that there was no point in making 35mm sensors.

And yet Nikon hung on. Some folks didn't care about what was high ISO at the time (ISO 800-1600) and some folks were probably unaware how big the difference was. Not everyone hangs around POTN, FM, and dpReview.

I think Nikon does have an advantage now in low ISO DR. If I had to put it in context, I think this competitive difference is smaller than the high ISO noise difference from 2001-2008 in terms of users who care, and the difference has persisted now for just a couple years. I think the 'cycles' if they exist move more slowly than people tend to expect, and that the vast bulk of customers are completely unaware of what the small, vocal minority think of as a crippling handicap.


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Jan 05, 2015 23:49 |  #13

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17367303 (external link)
I'd argue that Nikon was far behind Canon in digital from 2001-2008. It was not at all cyclical during that extended period. The cyclical nature is that now Nikon has been ahead for sensors (since using SONY) for the last few years.

I'd say Nikon was certainly behind Canon for their entire camera range between 2004 to 2008. Canon was still using CCD's in certain cameras (like the 1D) up to 2004, and early CMOS sensors weren't all that much better than CCD, but I think that was mainly due to CCD being a much more mature technology. Canon did a great job taking a much cheaper technology (CMOS) and developing it to the point it was clearly superior to CCD.

It's pretty clear that in 2008 Nikon using Sony CMOS sensors started pulling ahead of Canon with regards to sensor development. It's interesting though that it took Sony 2-3 years to catch up to Nikon to get similar results from their own cameras. :-)

Some of the newer Nikons like the D7100 and D5200 are using Toshiba CMOS sensors. Based on what I saw from the D7100 files I played with I think Sony has some serious competition.


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Jan 06, 2015 08:40 |  #14

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17367303 (external link)
I'd argue that Nikon was far behind Canon in digital from 2001-2008. It was not at all cyclical during that extended period. The cyclical nature is that now Nikon has been ahead for sensors (since using SONY) for the last few years.

I agree in the digital era began Nikon was behind Canon in sensors, but I'm an old timer and I was thinking back to even the film years. Back then Nikon would jump ahead with a camera and then Canon would leap frog them with some new feature and so on. There was a cycle, but now Nikon keeps coming out with cameras with not only better sensors, but more features in general. Canon seems pleased to offer incremental upgrades and rest on their extensive lens lineup and perhaps better quality control. They haven't had the problems Nikon has had with their 600/610, 800/810 and 750 cameras.

All in all I think the 5D Mark III hits a lot of buttons - not too many megapixels to choke an average computer, cross sensors in the outer focus points and a nice bright view finder. But, compared to the competition it's (to me) a bit overpriced for this feature set. That and I wish it had spot focus on the outer focus points. Nikon puts that on their lower end cameras.


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Jan 06, 2015 09:30 |  #15

As a person who worked with both Canon sensor (5D3) and Sony Sensor (A7R), I can tell you that working with the Sony Sensor is so much cleaner and easier. For someone who enjoy landscape photography, I don't even bring my 5D3 with me anymore. It on wildlife and sport duty only. I am only 1 lens away to abandon my DSLR and go fully mirrorless.


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