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POLL: "Are you Focal Length Limited?"
I am FLL less than 50% of the time.
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34.1%
I am FLL more than 50% of the time
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Dec 27, 2014 11:15 |  #16

O I know Jeremy, I was just having my own fun. truth ...If you lived closer Im sure we would shoot together regularly.


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Dec 27, 2014 11:44 |  #17

Finding A way to get close is the fun part. I seen this little guy out in the yard and was not able to get close to him so I walked into the house and there was the laundry basket with the sheets in it lol so I grabbed a purple sheet, pulled it over my head and walked up to him and shot him at 300mm. So if theres a will theres a way

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Dec 27, 2014 11:58 |  #18

I wish we did live closer. I'm sure it would be fun to shoot together.

As for the backyard bird, I've had birds land on my lens in th backyard when I'm under my camo drape. But they are backyard birds and used to humans.

I think most bird shooters are FLL much of tha time but we will see what this poll shows. We have many more visits than votes so I'm not sure why people don't post up and vote in the poll.



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Dec 27, 2014 11:59 |  #19

Might not be bird wise, but no seldom limited. I use my 600mm L II and times I also add my 2X III in good light. (tripod always)


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Dec 28, 2014 16:51 |  #20

I voted over 50% of the time as I pretty much allways have to crop. I hike around with the camera though and dont really sit it out long enough for a couple of reasons. Where I live here in Germany it doesn´t seem to matter where in the local countryside I go someone will turn up within half an hour to jog past, bike past, walk past with a dog, walk past with a gun (local hunters) or walk up to me and ask what I am shooting. Here in Europe I guess the population density is just too high. Plus I walk to keep some modicum of fitness up and dont have the patience :)


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Dec 28, 2014 18:02 |  #21

Good point. If you usually crop, you're probably FLL. Even if it's just a little. Yeah , there is cropping for composition but it still "zooms" your subject.



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Dec 31, 2014 20:53 |  #22

jhayesvw wrote in post #17352782 (external link)
We have many more visits than votes so I'm not sure why people don't post up and vote in the poll.


That is because many of those who visit are not registered members of the forum. They cannot vote unless they are registered here on POTN.


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Jan 01, 2015 07:56 |  #23

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17359836 (external link)
That is because many of those who visit are not registered members of the forum. They cannot vote unless they are registered here on POTN.

Good point Tom. I had not thought about visitors.



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Jan 01, 2015 08:19 |  #24

Hicking AND backyard birder with 7D and 100-400 both first of the name :-P
I even bought a TC x2III, because i'm so FLL sometime with those tiny birds.
but so disappointed by the IQ produced vmad that i don't use it ...
Actually i'm trying the tamron 150-600, from a friend, and ... yeaaa, ok the IQ is a bit soft but the reach is just right ;)
So i'm thinking about it :-)


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Jan 01, 2015 08:52 |  #25

I'm going to attempt to be satisfied with a 100-400 ii with a Canon 1.4X teleconverter... getting me to 560mm. I think it might end up being a bit sharper than the Tamron at 600mm but time will tell.

I won't know until the middle of February. I'm hopeful, based on what I've seen posted here, both reviews and accompanying photographs.


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Jan 01, 2015 22:45 |  #26

The Tamron is f6.3 at 600 and the canon with Tc is f8.
It's not a lot but it's definitely less light. Probably slower focus too. And will not AF on most bodies except 1series, 5d3 and 7d2. Ugh.



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Jan 01, 2015 22:56 |  #27

Until I get my hands on one of these,


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.. yes, I am limited.

I shoot with up to a 500mm f/4L IS with t-Cons.
I have shot since 2004 with 1D series (1.3x crop, low MP density)
and have now added the 5D3.

I'd be curious to know what the 7D2 would do for the whole "reach" thing.

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Jan 01, 2015 23:30 |  #28

jhayesvw wrote in post #17361472 (external link)
The Tamron is f6.3 at 600 and the canon with Tc is f8.
It's not a lot but it's definitely less light. Probably slower focus too. And will not AF on most bodies except 1series, 5d3 and 7d2. Ugh.

Good point Jeremy, it seems to me the speed on the longer lens is a problem for me much of the time as well as being FLL. I'm still trying to find the sweet spot for my setup on the cloudy overcast days we have so much of where I live.
Much of my shooting is done early and late too, enough light is a problem most of the time for me to get good detail shots of the small birds. I know that a Sunny day sure helps on my Sig -150-500, 5-6.3 so if the Tamron is 6.3 on the long end that would be nice. The 600 F4L would just have to be "sweet" to use in my gloomy area but too many $$ for me at this time. One stop can make a huge difference.


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Jan 02, 2015 08:14 |  #29

Jake I actually LOL'd at the lenses you posted.

Craig, I hear Ya about the light. It's not much of an issue where I typically shoot since we have sunny days like 350 days a year. When I go into the canopy areas I need light though. So I feel your pain.
Perhaps get used to fill flash and some kind of flash extender?



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Jan 06, 2015 23:48 |  #30

I certainly suffer from FLL - mainly because I suffer from WALLET FLL ... if only I had an unlimited budget but apparently eating food is important :oops:

Jokes aside - I agree with most, getting "closer" for that shot is a huge part of the attraction - and when the bird takes flight just before I click the shutter - I remind myself that it is NATURE and I am sharing THEIR world/space, not THEM with ME ...


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