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Jan 04, 2015 16:03 |  #1

Ok, I realize you guys have probably answered this question a million times, but I'm new and need advice. Recommend a short fast zoom with image stabilization to shoot concerts/bands. I'm using a Canon T5i. I've got up to $1200 to spend.
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Jan 06, 2015 10:20 |  #2

What will be your distance to the performers? What focal length were you thinking? What do you already own? What aperture do you call fast?




  
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Jan 07, 2015 06:15 |  #3

Mojo Lens wrote in post #17366031 (external link)
short fast zoom with image stabilization

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Jan 07, 2015 14:18 |  #4

Mojo Lens wrote in post #17366031 (external link)
Ok, I realize you guys have probably answered this question a million times, but I'm new and need advice. Recommend a short fast zoom with image stabilization to shoot concerts/bands. I'm using a Canon T5i. I've got up to $1200 to spend.
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If you're thinking that IS is going to help you in a concert environment, think again.

I'd look for a used 24-70mm f/2.8L...


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Jan 08, 2015 11:23 |  #5

Well I'm shooting in small clubs/bars for the most part. I've read "absolutely must have IS" and also "it doesn't work for shooting musicians".
The more I research, the more confused I get! It was also recommended that a full frame body would be a better upgrade than a lens for my T5i crop.
Currently using Canon 50mm 1.8 and Canon 85mm 1.8
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Jan 08, 2015 12:00 |  #6

IS is only helpful with fairly stationary subjects at slow shutter speeds and/or long focal lengths.


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Jan 08, 2015 13:00 as a reply to  @ narlus's post |  #7

I sure am thankful to know that IS will not do what I want it to do while shooting bands. This will save me some very scarce ca$h!




  
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Jan 08, 2015 13:11 |  #8

SIGMA 18-50MM F/2.8 DC EX MACRO EF @ $275
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sigma 18 35 1.8 @ $799




  
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Jan 09, 2015 17:15 |  #9

Sigma lenses will miss focus in poor light. If your concert has enough light, it's fine, but if it's challenging, you're better off with Canon. 35mm f/2 IS might be something to try. You've already got the 85mm f/1.8 and that's a fine lens for concert as well. First party autofocus is usually better than third party, depending on the lens model and the manufacturer.


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Jan 10, 2015 11:38 |  #10

Road Dog wrote in post #17371016 (external link)
If you're thinking that IS is going to help you in a concert environment, think again.

I'd look for a used 24-70mm f/2.8L...

I agree. I have never needed IS in the concerts I shot.




  
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Jan 10, 2015 13:18 as a reply to  @ the flying moose's post |  #11

Yeah, the more photographers I talk to, the more I realize IS is not worth the cost for concert/band photography.

How much of a difference would a full frame, say markii, make over my T5i for concert photography?




  
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Jan 10, 2015 13:24 |  #12

Personally I'd stick with the t5i and 85mm... You'll have the bonus of the 1.6 crop factor and a small body. Shoot them and figure out what you think you are missing. I don't see you gaining much by going to a 5D2.


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Jan 10, 2015 14:03 |  #13

unless i missed it, you didn't really answer this one:

gschlact wrote in post #17368885 (external link)
What will be your distance to the performers?

even when i shoot in small clubs i rarely shoot from the front row. I am almost always at the sound board or off to one side. I will grab a stool with rungs on the bottom to get up above the crowd level, i'm 6'1" so another foot up gets me plenty of room with a raised stage. I almost always use my 70-200, even when i only had a crop body those focal lengths were fine. The 85 1.8 is also a good concert lens on a crop even though 1.8 is generally too narrow DOF i shoot it at 2.5 usually. From the back of a room you can get the whole stage with 85mm on a crop.

just to muddy the water a bit, the biggest jump in quality for my concert photography was going to a 6D


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Jan 10, 2015 15:11 |  #14

What's the complaint with your current rig? Are you missing focus too much, hate swapping lenses, or do you want to expand focal lengths? Also, are you invited to shoot, or are you just shooting for your own interest? I ask that because wide angle may be weird and of limited use in a club if you're in the latter category.

Far more than any standard zoom, on my 7d I preferred my Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 OS for its versatility. After a little micro adjustment the AF was excellent, but, as previously suggested, there's less consistency from lens to lens with third-party manufacturers.

You'll still need faster primes for the dimly lit clubs, and your 85 f/1.8 is perfect wide open on crop and FF. I've had mixed results with Canon's 50mm lenses in these low light situations. If you need a little more reach for not much $$$, a 100mm f/2 comes to mind.


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Jan 10, 2015 15:18 |  #15

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17375757 (external link)
just to muddy the water a bit, the biggest jump in quality for my concert photography was going to a 6D

Yeah, I went from a 7d to a 5d3, and never looked back. It's just a matter of discerning the difference between want and need, then balancing that out with that unforgiving bastard named Budget.


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