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Jan 12, 2015 22:59 |  #76

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John,
Just noticed you are my Chicago 'burn neighbor. ߘ
What camera have you been using?
It would help compare to the 7dii.

It is looking to be a great camera. . My opinion are most issues are user issues. I don't want to elaborate my opinion on the board. Too many sensitive users working through it.

I currently use a 6D and my lens kit includes the 17-40, 24-105, and the 100-400. I used the 6D with the 100-400 on my first trip to Lock and Dam 14 a few weeks ago. I recently sold my 60D in anticipation of purchasing the 7D Mark II or perhaps what ever replaces the 5D Mark IV if such a camera is ever announced. I need to quit reading canon rumors. :)




  
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Jan 12, 2015 23:15 |  #77

JohnKS wrote in post #17379913 (external link)
I currently use a 6D and my lens kit includes the 17-40, 24-105, and the 100-400. I used the 6D with the 100-400 on my first trip to Lock and Dam 14 a few weeks ago. I recently sold my 60D in anticipation of purchasing the 7D Mark II or perhaps what ever replaces the 5D Mark IV if such a camera is ever announced. I need to quit reading canon rumors. :)

John,
If you got sharp images with the 60D you won't need to worry or adjust to get sharp images with the 7d2 20mpixel sensor.
Realize that the micro b, up issues are a pixel density issue, not sensor size issue.
At 52mpixel full frame will have same sensitivities.




  
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Jan 12, 2015 23:41 |  #78

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John,
If you got sharp images with the 60D you won't need to worry or adjust to get sharp images with the 7d2 20mpixel sensor.
Realize that the micro b, up issues are a pixel density issue, not sensor size issue.
At 52mpixel full frame will have same sensitivities.

Thanks. The 60D treated me well when paired with the 100-400. I was able to get some nice images with that combo.




  
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Jan 13, 2015 20:32 |  #79

I was excited for the 7d mark II. Then I started getting caught up in the full frame vs crop sensor. I've not shot with a full frame, but reading about the IQ and high ISO performance and got me questioning if I should buy the 7d mark ii or not. Airshows and sports being what I mainly shoot, if money were not a factor, I'd totally get a 1dx. I started thinking about a 5d mark iii, not sure what I'd be compromising in performance for action shots. After seeing this thread, I think I am back to getting the 7d mark ii, then I'll rent a full frame sometime this year and consider a full frame down the road. The 7d mark ii is meant to be an upgrade for my 40d. High ISO in poorly lit high school gyms is my only concern left for the 7d mark ii.




  
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Jan 13, 2015 21:35 as a reply to  @ squires's post |  #80

Squires, there is a fair amount of indoor high school basketball (aka poor lighting) shots taken with the unit on various forums. Give it a Google. Even some examples at up to 12800 ISO.




  
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Jan 14, 2015 07:48 |  #81

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I was excited for the 7d mark II. Then I started getting caught up in the full frame vs crop sensor. I've not shot with a full frame, but reading about the IQ and high ISO performance and got me questioning if I should buy the 7d mark ii or not. Airshows and sports being what I mainly shoot, if money were not a factor, I'd totally get a 1dx. I started thinking about a 5d mark iii, not sure what I'd be compromising in performance for action shots. After seeing this thread, I think I am back to getting the 7d mark ii, then I'll rent a full frame sometime this year and consider a full frame down the road. The 7d mark ii is meant to be an upgrade for my 40d. High ISO in poorly lit high school gyms is my only concern left for the 7d mark ii.

I can relate to just about everything you've said, except I was considering the 1D4 instead of 5D3. For your indoor sports, if the camera you're using isn't providing acceptable IQ at the high ISOs, simply get a faster lens. Isn't that where most of the IQ is produced anyway, at the lens?


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Jan 14, 2015 13:08 |  #82

My 7D II arrives tomorrow from B&H. I am hoping that my BIF keeper rate is greatly improved. Excited about the purchase.


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Jan 15, 2015 20:35 |  #83

Joel Pull your hat down hard pull your suspenders up and hang on tight. don't get frustrated try and think things through. try and find someone that for $20 bucks will show you the way. ...............Mmmmmmm​m forget that last part.


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Jan 16, 2015 06:39 |  #84

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Joel Pull your hat down hard pull your suspenders up and hang on tight. don't get frustrated try and think things through. try and find someone that for $20 bucks will show you the way. ...............Mmmmmmm​m forget that last part.

Jeff, I am coming from a 7D to the 7D II. So far I am getting good results. Haven't had a chance for a good testing yet. However, tonight I will be at a Basketball game to photo the dance team and will probably do a few BB photos for test purposes. Tomorrow I am going below a local Dam to do some birding. So soon I will have a better idea of how this great machine works. The menu system is a little of a challenge to learn. as it is quite different from the 7D.

I never have done much video, but today I have been ask to do a short video. There are lots of video choices with this new camera, and it took me a while to figure out how to get to those menu items. Found out that where the Live View choices are in the menus change to video when you select the video switch. Took a while to get to that. I am still scratching my head as to whether MOV or MP4 is better. I have been told that the camera will do both at the same time, but haven't figured out how to do that yet.

I am excited to put it through it paces today and tomorrow. The few pics that I have taken so far look sharp, so I don't think I need to do much MA with my 70-200 lens. My 150-600 tammy is at Tamron being upgraded, so I will not get to test it for a few days.


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Jan 16, 2015 12:03 as a reply to  @ squires's post |  #85

Really, full-frame is not THAT much of a difference imo. But depends on the camera and situation.
It seemed like for me, most of the time it wasn't noticeable at all. Only in very low light.

If you want a wide FOV, and/or the best image quality, then go for full-frame. Or go film and get a 8x10, lol.

I compared the 7D II, to the Nikon D750, and besides very low ISO shadow recovery,
and deep shadow noise, I found them very very much the same. I prefer the Canon, for colors/ergonomics/buil​d quality/FPS/Menus/ect.

I also compared the 5D III to my 60D, and again, wasn't seeing huge differences.

But, if money wasn't an issue, I still would probably get a 1DX. Just for pure speed and overall quality.


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Jan 16, 2015 18:04 |  #86

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Jan 17, 2015 10:19 |  #87

Took my lunch time at work yesterday to take a few bird pics. I keep feeders in the lawn of my office outside our lunchroom window. Everyone enjoys the view of the birds while eating. My motives were to draw them into the trees above the feeders for pics.

I am very happy. My 70-200 2.8 II with 2x TC did a great job. On even greater than 100% crop pics the feathers still have good detail. Sharp pics with no MA needed seems like. The Lens/TC combo on my 7D was slow AF and especially if you were going from distant to close or close to distant shots. The 7D2 seems to be faster than the 7Dc at AF with this combo. Of course without the TC the AF is very fast.

I love the way the 7D2 puts the focus point or points if using multiple points superimposed over the pic on review so you can tell if you hit focus on the target or moved off a bit, and you know which focal points were used. Good feature. The switching between different AF options is very handy. Canon did a good job designing that.

So far I am loving this camera. I have a lot of learning time ahead of me (should be fun) and especially to learn all the menu system and selections available.

I am going to a place below a local Dam this afternoon and put the camera through the BIF test. Lots of flying sea gulls & blue herons in that area. I was wanting to go to a BB game last night, but that fell through, so I will test indoor sports later.

I am posting one of the bird pics from yesterday. This pic is not straight out of camera, but just like all my pics is PP in LR. This is cropped quite a bit, but not 100%:

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Jan 17, 2015 10:26 |  #88

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Took my lunch time at work yesterday to take a few bird pics. I keep feeders in the lawn of my office outside our lunchroom window. Everyone enjoys the view of the birds while eating. My motives were to draw them into the trees above the feeders for pics.

I am very happy. My 70-200 2.8 II with 2x TC did a great job. On even greater than 100% crop pics the feathers still have good detail. Sharp pics with no MA needed seems like. The Lens/TC combo on my 7D was slow AF and especially if you were going from distant to close or close to distant shots. The 7D2 seems to be faster than the 7Dc at AF with this combo. Of course without the TC the AF is very fast.

I love the way the 7D2 puts the focus point or points if using multiple points superimposed over the pic on review so you can tell if you hit focus on the target or moved off a bit, and you know which focal points were used. Good feature. The switching between different AF options is very handy. Canon did a good job designing that.

So far I am loving this camera. I have a lot of learning time ahead of me (should be fun) and especially to learn all the menu system and selections available.

I am going to a place below a local Dam this afternoon and put the camera through the BIF test. Lots of flying sea gulls & blue herons in that area. I was wanting to go to a BB game last night, but that fell through, so I will test indoor sports later.

I am posting one of the bird pics from yesterday. This pic is not straight out of camera, but just like all my pics is PP in LR. This is cropped quite a bit, but not 100%:
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Very beautiful photo! Now I have to wait in agony as I wait for mine to get here(I sold my 7d yesterday, so I am also camera-less right now). Anyone have any suggestions on how to set up the auto-focus for birding?


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Jan 17, 2015 10:38 |  #89

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Very beautiful photo! Now I have to wait in agony as I wait for mine to get here(I sold my 7d yesterday, so I am also camera-less right now). Anyone have any suggestions on how to set up the auto-focus for birding?

SM, I used center point focus on the birds setting still. Today I am going to use all 65 points for BIF. At least I am going to start with that. I don't know if one of the AF cases is perfect for BIF, but maybe Case 6 (For subjects that change speeds and move erratically).

Some with more experience with the camera would be better to give that info. (as I am a newbe to this camera). I am keeping my 7Dc for a backup camera.


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Jan 17, 2015 11:41 |  #90

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Anyone have any suggestions on how to set up the auto-focus for birding?

I use default settings out of the box. Very lame maybe, and betrays some unwillingness to go into the depths of the settings, but works for me.

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