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Jan 04, 2015 18:41 |  #1

hello everyone, what are your thoughts on this subject? im interested in using a telescope along with my dslrs for those deep night photos.

any recomendations on adapters and telescopes to start messing around?

thanx.


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Jan 04, 2015 18:45 |  #2

I was just reading this the other day. Interesting stuff.

https://iso.500px.com …photography-guide-part-1/ (external link)


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Jan 05, 2015 18:28 |  #3

Gusarb wrote in post #17366251 (external link)
hello everyone, what are your thoughts on this subject? im interested in using a telescope along with my dslrs for those deep night photos.

any recomendations on adapters and telescopes to start messing around?

thanx.

It is important to learn the night sky and start simple, with a camera and tripod. To see what can be done with these two pieces of equipment take a look atthis thread in the photo sharing forum. It is a long thread, however it has many excellent photos of what can be done without a scope or tracking mount, and you'll learn a lot also. HTH




  
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Jan 07, 2015 09:28 |  #4

Always aim for attainable goal first. Otherwise, you will be discourage and abandon pretty quick. You can do widefield shot or very bright object like the moon. Deep Space object requires more equipment and a lot more post-processing.


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Jan 08, 2015 08:44 |  #5

That's a very broad stroke question. We can be more specific and keep the recommendations more realistic with a budget allowance.

High end (imaging quality) astro gear can help dampen frustration but comes at a considerable price. There are quite a few things beyond a telescope and adapters that need to e factored into the budget as well.


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Jan 13, 2015 02:38 |  #6

I'm just starting and as other have said, it's not easy and one can become disappointed. Im no expert and to date I've only just mangaged to get one fairly clear shot of the sky....Nothing impressive, but my attempts before were worthless. I took a step back and read a lot from this site and from here: http://asignobservator​yii.webs.com/astrophot​ographytips.htm (external link)
Also stacking is something one should learn. http://asignobservator​yii.webs.com/tutorials​.htm (external link)
You need a camera and a tripod and a bit of preparation.

Below is taking in Norway with a Canon 70D/Sigma 17-50 f2.8 on a tripod.
Settings are 17mm, f2.8, 25sec shutter, iso 1600.
10 shots and 10 shots with the lens cap on and run through DSS
Didn't have a remote so i set the self timer to 2 secs
Now , I know the photo isn't impressive, but this was done with JUST a camera and a tripod. The sky didn't show many stars when looking up with the naked eye, but great to see all the stars the camera "sees" on longer exposure. Even got a cluster of something on the lower right. (The cluster is Pleiades my son found out)

I know your question is Deep stars, but I would not attempt that until one gets wide field down first as there are a lot of things to work on.
Focus can be hard to get, wind shaking the camera, light pollution, settings etc etc.


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Jan 13, 2015 09:59 |  #7

thanx a lot for your kind words everyone, lest say ill start with something like the photo above, and then move on to closer objects like the moon and then moving on for planets, what are the steps?


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Jan 13, 2015 13:47 |  #8

Taking photos of the moon is very different to the rest of space.
The moon is very bright so smaller aperture and fast shutter to get a sharp image.


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Jan 13, 2015 15:45 |  #9

In general Planetary photography specially the big 4s and Sun and moon, are entirely different from deep sky shooting that is a lot more difficult, needs "Know how" and a lot of patience.
If possible, start with Moon, then Jupiter and Saturn and see where you go from there. Any 400 /500 mm lens you have (Or even those cheap 25$ ones of the ebay are fine here and you should not spend too much at this stage. Telescope is a big NO NO at this time.
Clear dark sky to you.


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Jan 14, 2015 07:04 |  #10

When you start trying to shoot objects in the Solar System then you really start needing some more powerful gear. Even the Moon needs around 1500mm (on an APS-C) to fill the frame. Here's the Moon shot (in daylight) at 420mm -

IMAGE: http://www.frankhollis.com/temp/Jupiter%20Moon%20Daytime.jpg

As you can see, the Moon looks very small. However, it's huge compared to Jupiter - which is that little white dot near the top of the frame.

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Jan 14, 2015 07:36 |  #11

samsen wrote in post #17380822 (external link)
..Or even those cheap 25$ ones of the ebay .

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Jan 15, 2015 11:54 as a reply to  @ samsen's post |  #12

true, thank you, ill try to move on slowly!


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Jan 24, 2015 04:19 |  #13

Step one, create a budget. This can be an expensive pursuit. But with realistic expectations it can be usually accomplished with less than $1500, especially if you are comfortable buying used equipment.


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