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I am looking for an L lens, need advice.

 
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Jan 30, 2015 18:26 |  #16

Get a few... 40mm pancake and 24-105 perhaps. Or just the 24-70 f4 IS.


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Jan 30, 2015 18:44 |  #17

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17407460 (external link)
Ok, I guess I'll be the odd-man-out.

Don't be trapped by the L-lens mythology. Sure, some of them are better at some things. A blanket statement like "L-lenses are better." is just wrong. Ask 'better at what?'

The 18-55 IS II is a nice lens, if you are shooting at f/5.6 and smaller. The 17-55 & 15-85 are premium efs lenses. The 17-40 and 24-70s are L-variants in similar focal ranges. Interested in bang for your buck? Keep the 18-55 II. Interested in wider aperture? Get the 17-55. There really is no reason to spend L-lens money to shoot a crop camera at f/8.

Instead of the "L is better" thought process, decide what it is you want to do, then get the best lens for that purpose. If you decide you need a wide-aperture zoom in some focal length range, get the best lens you can afford that covers your need. If you really only need one lens with a huge aperture for portrait work, you'd be hard pressed to do better than the 50 1.4. It is not L, and it only costs $300 used, but it does what it does very well.

Of course, if you decide that what you want is the best mid-range zoom money can buy, feel free to shell out $2,000+ for the 24-70 f/2.8L II. Lots of folks have it and love it.

Decide what you want/need to do BEFORE deciding which lens to buy. You'll save truck-load of money that way.

The EF 24-105 f/4L is a good Lens and so is the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8, but the 24-105 can be had cheaper than the 17-55, go figger LoL!...............


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Jan 30, 2015 18:46 |  #18

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #17407810 (external link)
Get a few... 40mm pancake and 24-105 perhaps. Or just the 24-70 f4 IS.

Yeah man that 40mm f/2.8 is a great lens too, sometimes Canon will throw us some Gems!...............


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Jan 30, 2015 19:50 |  #19

You are covered up to 50mm. 24-105 is outstanding, but as a band parent of 2, I can tell you from experience you would appreciate the reach, speed and quality of the Canon 70- 200 2.8. The IS, if you can afford it. Keep in mind, if you want to sell it after band days are done, you will get almost all of your money back. Like renting the best in order to get those once in a lifetime shots.




  
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Chief_10Beers wrote in post #17407831 (external link)
The EF 24-105 f/4L is a good Lens and so is the EF-S 17-55 F/2.8, but the 24-105 can be had cheaper than the 17-55, go figger LoL!...............

I figger'd that a while ago. The 17-55 is one of the best efs lenses made. The 24-105 is easily the worst L-lens still in production. Now on to my gazintas.


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Jan 30, 2015 20:31 |  #21

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17407923 (external link)
I figger'd that a while ago. The 17-55 is one of the best efs lenses made. The 24-105 is easily the worst L-lens still in production. Now on to my gazintas.

Maybe you had a bad copy? Man I love my 24-105...............


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Chief_10Beers wrote in post #17407942 (external link)
Maybe you had a bad copy? Man I love my 24-105...............

Never had one. I can't get past the reviews. I'll stick to the 15-85 on my 60D when I need a mid-zoom.


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Jan 30, 2015 21:34 |  #23

Chief_10Beers wrote in post #17407942 (external link)
Maybe you had a bad copy? Man I love my 24-105...............

I've used it, but never owned it, and it is a good lens (especially when looked at for price vs performance on FF). However, for me, it's too narrow at the wide end for a crop body and I've tended to use primes rather than zooms for FF. For a walk-around lens, for me that would and did stop me from getting one (instead, I went for the 17-55IS and the 10-22 for crop and kept to primes on FF).

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Jan 30, 2015 21:38 |  #24

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17407957 (external link)
Never had one. I can't get past the reviews. I'll stick to the 15-85 on my 60D when I need a mid-zoom.

LoL! If I didn't buy the 6D because of the reviews I would not have bought one, but as luck would have it, I bought it first, used it and very pleased with it:mrgreen: Then I read the reviews, holy crap I bought a POS Junk, naa, my 6D and 60D fits me like a "T" along with my 24-105L:mrgreen:...............


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Jan 30, 2015 21:38 |  #25

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Lastly for a zoom neither of those beat the 17-55mm F2.8. I know it's not an L but what the OP is really looking for it a high end lens which the 17-55mm is optically.

You can have mine for cheap. Crap lens.


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Jan 30, 2015 21:48 |  #26

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I've used it, but never owned it, and it is a good lens (especially when looked at for price vs performance on FF). However, for me, it's too narrow at the wide end for a crop body and I've tended to use primes rather than zooms for FF. For a walk-around lens, for me that would and did stop me from getting one (instead, I went for the 17-55IS and the 10-22 for crop and kept to primes on FF).

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That is why I kept my 17-55 for my 60D, 24-105 for my 6D:-)...............


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Jan 30, 2015 22:06 |  #27

Crop lenses were designed for crop bodies, FF lenses for FF bodies. So, use a crop lens on your crop body - unless you have special needs, like a fast prime, tilt-shift, long tele, special macro, etc.


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Jan 30, 2015 22:22 |  #28

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Crop lenses were designed for crop bodies, FF lenses for FF bodies. So, use a crop lens on your crop body - unless you have special needs, like a fast prime, tilt-shift, long tele, special macro, etc.

Or we can use them as the situation fits:-)...............

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Chief_10Beers wrote in post #17408072 (external link)
Or we can use them as the situation fits:-)...............

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Works great, but if you are shopping for a tele zoom for a crop, the 55-250mm STM would probably be a much better choice.


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Jan 31, 2015 08:41 |  #30

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17407957 (external link)
Never had one. I can't get past the reviews. I'll stick to the 15-85 on my 60D when I need a mid-zoom.

The reviews are overly critical of the 24-105L, so I think actual experience with the lens would be more helpful. I bought the lens as part of a 5D3 kit, and have been quite pleased with it as a general purpose walk around lens. It vignettes a little when shot wide open, but that can be easily corrected in PP. I use it for most of my landscape shooting, so I am stopping the lens down most of the time anyway.

That being said, I would prefer something wider as a single walk around lens solution on a crop body, as 24mm is not very wide on APS-C. When I was shooting crop bodies, I owned the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and was quite happy with the results. If I was doing it over today, though, I would probably choose the EF-S 15-85mm IS instead for its greater focal range, based on how I use a walk around lens.


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