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Jan 04, 2015 17:48 |  #1

I have been contemplating upgrading my 7D to the 7D mk II but after reading mixed reviews. I'm not 100% sure it's not worth the expense. I'm just curious what others have experienced? I have no doubt the IQ will be better, I'm more curious how it fairs in low light. Thank you.

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Jan 04, 2015 19:38 |  #2

I'll have better info after tomorrow night but my initial thought is yes it is better, but maybe not by enough to justify the extra $. Shooting night soccer.


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Jan 04, 2015 20:06 |  #3

The 7d1 has focus inconsistencies. Likely no worse than the 7d2.

Everything else ( but price) is better with the 7d2.
IF you can afford it, get it.



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Jan 05, 2015 06:38 |  #4

Jhayesvw, what focus 'inconsistencies' are you referring to? Because I've found the auto focus system on my 7Ds to be very capable and reliable.

I've gone over lots of test shot examples, and the 7D2 is a very nice camera, but I'm not rushing out to buy one yet. Instead I bought another 7D for cheap and will reconsider prices in a few years. Nothing in the test shots screamed "This will be a real major improvement over what I can do with my current rig." but the 7D2 is on the list of gear upgrades in a few years.


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Jan 05, 2015 20:55 |  #5

It's a well known issue that the 7d has great AF and then will miss shots for no real reason. Shots it should have gotten.

I've had it happen multiple times. It's not user error. It just misses sometimes.

Not a huge deal to me but still an issue for some.

I think lens rentals used to have a camera body comparison page and the 7d ranked low on their AF scale.



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Jan 16, 2015 07:32 |  #6

I am in the same predicament.
jayhayesvw - I agree regards the reports of missing alternate shots and I have spotted similar issues. The 7D reportedly has the same AF system as the 1DIV and yet as an AF system does not quite prove as reliable. Reading many posts about this from different people with a range of experience and technical knowledge my take on it is that it is one thing to have the AF system, quite another for the camera to be able to drive the AF mechanism in the lens and this may be where it falls down.
The 7D2 has the same AF as the 1Dx but I am not expecting the same nail-and-keep-it-there performance as the 1Dx for the same reasons - but the iTR sounds a significatn step up for fast-moving or erratic subjects.

The AF is better but that is not the main reason it appeals to me: the parts I like are the better ISO performance and the fact it will AF up to f8 which enables me to put the 1.4tc on my 100-400 (the 7D will focus with the tc on but it is a bit sluggish). And that ability fo AF with f8 lenses seems to be related to what I understand is better AF at lower light levels.
I would normally plan for an upgrade in glass instead but telephoto wise that means a 400mm or 500mm f4 which is way more than the 7D2!




  
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Jan 16, 2015 07:38 |  #7

The 7D has the same AI Servo II algorithms as the 1D4, it doesn't have the same AF system, the hardware is quite a bit different. As to the upgrade, I feel that many can benefit from learning how to really shoot the 7D to make the most of the raw content, then with some minor tweaks to processing the images, they can get an extra stop out of the camera, alleviating the need to upgrade.

Not sure if this has been read, but this thread has many members pointing out tips: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17309808


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Jan 24, 2015 17:49 |  #8

I would upgrade. I had the 7D for 4 years and just upgraded to the 7d II.

right off the bat, the first thing you notice is the iso noise performance, it's night and day. 1600 was too noisy for me on my 7d but now i can shoot at 3200 and still get less noise on my 7d II.

The focus system is noticeably better as well. I had all sorts of focus issues with my Sigma 85mm 1.4 on the original 7D but as of now i have yet to experience one. Shots are no longer a hit or miss!


If noise is the biggest concern, you may just want to go FF. My buddies 6D still trumps my 7D mark II all day


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Jan 30, 2015 04:39 |  #9

8612images wrote in post #17366361 (external link)
I'll have better info after tomorrow night but my initial thought is yes it is better, but maybe not by enough to justify the extra $. Shooting night soccer.


yes, especially when the OP already has a 5D3 - just use that for night sports




  
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Feb 04, 2015 01:30 |  #10

Yeah my experience with the focus is that it's pretty accurate, but will definitely miss sometimes for no reason




  
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Feb 08, 2015 19:10 |  #11

Make sure you make focus a priority (part of the settings menu)
It is possible to set the shooting speed as prioriity - in which case the shutter will fire sometimes before the lens has had time to focus, and you will get out of focus images. It can slow up shooting a little, but are out of focus shots any use?




  
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Feb 08, 2015 19:19 |  #12

Depends on what you use it for. If you do alot of video, I say it is worth the upgrade. Otherwise I will just stick with the 7d.


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