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Feb 07, 2015 23:02 |  #286

http://cpn.canon-europe.com …d_Schuy_on_the_​EOS_5DS.do (external link)

One reason to have 50mp....love the end results. :lol:




  
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Feb 08, 2015 00:15 |  #287

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Well, if that's the only shortcoming, I'll stick with UniWB then. :-)

It also has colour-coded indicators when any of the channels saturates, focus peaking, exposure false colours, focus stacking, motion detection, focus trap, dual ISO extended DR bla bla bla - a ton of stuff . In some ways, it's good that the 5DS/R are so close to the 5D3 - ML should be able to work their magic quite soon after they get a body...


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Feb 08, 2015 03:57 |  #288

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Photo Rumors leaked the probable EU prices of some of the gear Canon will announce on Friday, February 6th. (external link)

Canon EOS 5Ds: €3,499 (around $4,000)
Canon EOS 5Ds R (no low-pass filter): €3,699 (around $4,200)
Canon EF 11-24mm f/4L USM: €2,999 (around $3,400)

Most probably the US prices will be lower.

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does somebody know when will be the camera avaible?

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Feb 08, 2015 04:25 |  #289

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hi
but what should i do to buy new canon gear?
win to lottery

does somebody know when will be the camera avaible?

thanks a lot

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Feb 08, 2015 04:43 |  #290

I'm thinking that this camera may actually be an ideal wildlife camera, if it doesn't have the DR to be great for landscapes.

It has the pixel density of a crop camera combined with the sensor area of a full-frame camera. This means you have plenty of scope to crop, allowing you to track an erratic target with one point, crop around it and still end up with 20-30MP. You also have the density to deal with situations where you're focal length limited. At the same time, you have the option to zoom right out and use the entire frame, for greater image quality. Sensor-wise, it's like shooting crop and full-frame at the same time, with all the benefits and none of the disadvantages of both.

It has a top-level AF system, capable of tracking the fastest, most difficult action in the animal kingdom. If I'm not mistaken, it also has metering linked to the AF point.

Sure, it only shoots at 5fps, but that's more than fast enough for most wildlife. It may only reach ISO 6400 natively, but that's still much higher than you'd normally go when shooting wildlife anyway, and is an arbitrary limit you can push past in post-processing with no IQ penalty compared to a higher native limit.

With a 200-400L permanently attached to one of these bodies and another body switching between the 500L and the 70-200L as needed, you'd pretty much have an ideal wildlife kit - likely better than the 1Dx, which has too low a pixel density for many situations.




  
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Feb 08, 2015 05:56 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #291

Same applies to aviation. A 5DS with a 600L which would work almost like a 375-600 zoom would on a crop. Add a 5D3 with the 100-400 L II and 1.4 extender and you're pretty much good to go in almost any situation you are likely to find. All I would need then is to have my buddy who was an engineering consultant to the Scrapheap Challenge TV show (I think the US version was called Junkyard Wars?) to build me a modern version of a Scarff ring to mount the camera/lens combination to my wheelchair.

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Feb 08, 2015 06:02 |  #292

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An aluminum pot is stronger than a clay pot, and lighter too. ;)

Hmmm As it was aluminium before - logic would dictate its probably dropped from 1mm thick to 0.8 mm thick No?
Now if they had said it was now made in Titanium, so lighter and therefore stronger I could see that as an improvement.
My childish logic is Weight = Strength = Durability.

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Feb 08, 2015 06:06 |  #293

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Hmmm As it was aluminium before - logic would dictate its probably dropped from 1mm thick to 0.8 mm thick No?
Now if they had said it was now made in Titanium, so lighter and therefore stronger I could see that as an improvement.
My childish logic is Weight = Strength = Durability.

The CEO of the UK's largest car third party warranty insurer. Stated that something like 90% of all claims related to suspension failures. He even said this pursuit of better m.p.g has got to the stage that the new cars just are not up to the task!

Depends largely on the material and the construction. Heavier/denser materials aren't necessarily stronger.




  
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Feb 08, 2015 08:30 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #294

thanks
so late
hope to see some tests before


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Feb 08, 2015 10:05 |  #295

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This was repeated here at 14:29. https://www.youtube.co​m …w&feature=playe​r_embedded (external link)

If true I'm suddenly much more interested... if this impacts usable dynamic range.

Canon really hasn't said enough in a clear fashion about what we're really going to see here.


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Feb 08, 2015 10:19 |  #296

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Hmmm As it was aluminium before - logic would dictate its probably dropped from 1mm thick to 0.8 mm thick No?
Now if they had said it was now made in Titanium, so lighter and therefore stronger I could see that as an improvement.
My childish logic is Weight = Strength = Durability.

The CEO of the UK's largest car third party warranty insurer. Stated that something like 90% of all claims related to suspension failures. He even said this pursuit of better m.p.g has got to the stage that the new cars just are not up to the task!

It's naive logic. Different designs and manufacturing processes can wield stronger structures while also making them lighter, even using the same materials.


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Feb 08, 2015 13:29 |  #297

It is precisely what I thought about the camera - the prime prospect if the commercial studio photography and people that are either using or want to use MF. It is not really for landscape photographers due to DR limitations.

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One reason to have 50mp....love the end results. :lol:


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Feb 08, 2015 13:32 |  #298

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It is precisely what I thought about the camera - the prime prospect if the commercial studio photography and people that are either using or want to use MF. It is not really for landscape photographers due to DR limitations.

That's a very small niche.

Given what the likely spent in R&D on this new sensor, it would be ideal if it were appealing to a broader consumer set.


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Feb 08, 2015 13:38 |  #299

I think it will create a small revolution for commercial photography, just like 5DMKII did for video.
We need to see what happens 1 year from now when commercial photographers are going to start using it. It can be a perfect camera for studio and maybe a lot of fashion photographers will start getting it.

It looks like 5D MKIV will be towards PJ and action.

So the gap that Canon has right now is something for Landscape photographers with a very good DR. I would say that Canon covers Commercial/Studio and PJ really well and their week area is Landscape where they are lacking a product similar to D810.

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That's a very small niche.

Given what the likely spent in R&D on this new sensor, it would be ideal if it were appealing to a broader consumer set.


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Feb 08, 2015 15:11 |  #300

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That's a very small niche.

Given what the likely spent in R&D on this new sensor, it would be ideal if it were appealing to a broader consumer set.

But Canon might have reserved the high DR variant for the 1DXS! 50 MP - ie the perfect Studio, Commercial, and Landscape camera - plus a fantastic all round camera for the well off amateurs. That would justfy the R&D and they could sell it for £6,000!
Following their precedent of having 2 5Ds, they could even pop in 4K Video and charge £7,000 for that version. And not kill the revenue stresms of the ID- C cameras.
That would shut every one up! If you want the ultimate we have it - you just have to pay for it lol
If its possible they could even expand that for the Action Sports crowd - if its possible to push through those files at 14 fps?

After all if they put amazing DR in the 5DS! For £3,500 who would pay the extra for the 1D variants.
Just thinking aloud. It also stops people jumping ship to Nikon while they work out how to deliver these variant.
Well thats what I would do if I were them.


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