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What to upgrade to for sports from 3ti?

 
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Feb 11, 2015 11:54 |  #1

Currently, I have the Canon 3ti if I were to upgrade to a different camera what would you guys recommend?
I'm just a mom with small children who loves to take sports photos both indoor and Outdoors. (Wrestling, hockey, football, baseball, soccer, downhill skiing)

Should I stick with the 3ti it seems like everyone has 5D, 6D, or 7D

I have just recently purchased the canon 70-200 f2.8 lens which has made a huge differnce. now its just getting my camera settings down for both wrestling and hockey.

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Feb 11, 2015 12:04 |  #2

Are you unhappy with the camera itself or do you feel it is holding you back? If so can you name the specific item?

The popular response will be to get the 85mm 1.8

My personal opinion from having had a 70D (similar crop sensor) is that because of all the indoor stuff I do with my kids I ended up wanting full frame to assist in the results even with good lenses I was able to find the limits of my camera and bump against them and it usually annoyed me. My wife and friends think the pictures are great I myself found them limited because of technical abilities the camera couldn't meet.

If you do not fall in that category, than my opinion is stay with the t3i and get better glass.

If you still want to move up the 6D is great and will be in a good price range as long as you do not feel limited by the AF system your T3i has. If you do then you will want to likely move up higher. I myself after having the AF system on the 70D was not happy while handling a 6D and have decided to move up to a D750 or a 5D mk3 in the next month or two (havent fully decided but leaning towards the D750... but I also had only APS-C glass before this move so I am doing a clean slate).

Just remember if you move full frame you will lose the "reach" that you get with your T3i due to the crop factors apparent field of view.


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Feb 11, 2015 12:05 |  #3

1Dx

7d mark 2 rather than the original, since the sensor in the 7d classic is the same as what you already have, you are aware of it's shortcomings.

1d mark 4, used is the same price as a new 7d mark 2.

70d, cheaper option but a significant upgrade from the rebel, usable ISO up to 6400, 12800 if you are happier with more work in post.




  
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Feb 11, 2015 14:30 |  #4

What is your budget? Hard to make a recommendation without knowing your budget. Lots of choices depending on budget.

Are the outdoor sports (football, soccer, baseball) during the day or at night?

IMO the 1DIII is awesome bang for the buck right now if you are on a tight budget. ~$600-700 on the boards around here and elsewhere. Heck I even got one back at xmas for $410.


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Feb 11, 2015 20:45 |  #5

What other lenses are you invested in? The 5D and 6D will render all EF-S lenses incompatible.

What is your budget? Are you open to used gear?

If sports is your primary goal, your budget is <$1000, and you're willing to buy used I would look at the 7D or the 1D MKIII. The 7D will accept EF-S and EF lenses. The 1D will only accept EF. Both will have excellent focus systems for capturing action with the edge going to the 1D.


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Feb 11, 2015 22:02 as a reply to  @ crbinson's post |  #6

I would like to keep it under $1,000 and yes I'm absolutely open to used gear.
For lenses I have tamron 70-200 f2.8--tamron 17-50 f2.8 XR LD-- canon 50 f1.8 these are my main lenses I use for various kid shots whether it's sports or just trying to get a portrait with their sportsgear on.

Sports really is my primary goal.

Thank you for the info.




  
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Feb 11, 2015 22:08 as a reply to  @ rdalrt's post |  #7

Budget is under $1000.
For now football, soccer, and baseball are during the day and will be for quite a few years for me.

How did you score a camera for $410?

Thank you for the feedback.




  
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Feb 11, 2015 22:12 |  #8

klswenson wrote in post #17427976 (external link)
I would like to keep it under $1,000 and yes I'm absolutely open to used gear.
For lenses I have tamron 70-200 f2.8--tamron 17-50 f2.8 XR LD-- canon 50 f1.8 these are my main lenses I use for various kid shots whether it's sports or just trying to get a portrait with their sportsgear on.

Sports really is my primary goal.

Thank you for the info.

Well if keeping the budget under 1k that means no 6D. Since you are shooting mainly sports in outdoor lighting that means most newer APS-C would work fine.

7D used go for under 1k, and will provide a pretty great AF system, You can get used 70D for under 1k as well and it's AF system will be better than your T3i and would be a nice upgrade as well.

Personally having owned the 70D I think you might like that, then again I have not used a 7D myself personally so have no direct comparison.


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Feb 11, 2015 22:27 |  #9

If your going to shoot outdoors look at a Mark IIN. I learned on that camera and the AF system is really nice. Great step up, but it's very limited, ISO is limited so you will not be able to use it in low light conditions. You can pick up one for less than $500.00. I know because I have one in perfect condition and no one wants to buy it lol.


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Feb 11, 2015 22:28 |  #10

klswenson wrote in post #17427980 (external link)
Budget is under $1000.
For now football, soccer, and baseball are during the day and will be for quite a few years for me.

How did you score a camera for $410?

Thank you for the feedback.

KEH offers a wide range of (external link) clean like-new used cameras in a wide range of affordable prices.




  
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Feb 11, 2015 22:40 |  #11

klswenson wrote in post #17427976 (external link)
I would like to keep it under $1,000 and yes I'm absolutely open to used gear.
For lenses I have tamron 70-200 f2.8--tamron 17-50 f2.8 XR LD-- canon 50 f1.8 these are my main lenses I use for various kid shots whether it's sports or just trying to get a portrait with their sportsgear on.

Sports really is my primary goal.

Thank you for the info.

I'm not that familiar with the Tamron line but suspect that is an APS-C lens. If so and you want to keep that lens, stick with the crop sensor bodies.


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Feb 12, 2015 11:01 as a reply to  @ crbinson's post |  #12

Refurbished from Canon: 70D with 18-55mm lens for $863.36 on sale with a 20% discount. It is cheaper at this moment with the lens than body only.


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Feb 12, 2015 18:11 |  #13

Well, given your budget and lenses, a 7D or maybe 70D would be your best bet. Maybe pick up a 1.4x extender to add to the 70-200 for daytime outdoor sports.

If you were willing to swap out the 17-50 for a fast prime for indoor sports (sorry, the focus of the 50mm 1.8 just won't cut it), say the 85mm 1.8, then I would recommend the 1DIII.


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Feb 12, 2015 18:41 |  #14

I upgraded to a 70D from the T3i, but also kept the T3i. I shoot a lot of outdoor sports and the 7 fps frame rate and touch screen are worthy upgrades to me. The AF system is a lot more flexible, though I have not used it to its fullest extent as yet. I use it with my 70-200 F4L IS and have been very pleased. Plus your present lenses will work.


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Feb 13, 2015 18:41 |  #15

Ok now you guys have me leaning towards a canon 70d or 7d mark II.

I shoot both indoor and outdoor sports for my kids and their friends.

Things I don't like about the 3ti currently are:
1. To much grain the higher the ISO (low light situations) with a good lens.
2. AF system could definitely be better.

I also have been contemplating getting 85mm 1.8 lens for gym lighting.

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