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Feb 11, 2015 20:04 |  #1

looking for a new general purpose lens could use some help trying to stay around $1000. I have 70D and sl1 with a 50 1.4, 17-50, 10-18, 55-250 and sigma 400. for the most part the 17-50 stays on the camera but I find I wish I had a little more reach most of the time. I know most people are going to recommend the 15-85 but I am really not a fan of the variable aperture. I like 24-70 but not sure thats much of an improvement over the 17-50 on reach and I would have to buy used, the 24-105 can be had pretty cheap and has more reach just seems to not get much love from people.


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Feb 11, 2015 20:13 |  #2

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looking for a new general purpose lens could use some help trying to stay around $1000. I have 70D and sl1 with a 50 1.4, 17-50, 10-18, 55-250 and sigma 400. for the most part the 17-50 stays on the camera but I find I wish I had a little more reach most of the time. I know most people are going to recommend the 15-85 but I am really not a fan of the variable aperture. I like 24-70 but not sure thats much of an improvement over the 17-50 on reach and I would have to buy used, the 24-105 can be had pretty cheap and has more reach just seems to not get much love from people.

I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens! I love my 24-105mm lens!

The 70-200mm f/2.8 IS is my favorite lens. However, The 24-105mm f/4 IS is the lens I would keep if I could have only one lens.

How's that for some love?


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Feb 11, 2015 20:31 |  #3

You have a great collection of gear now. I don't know of 'upgrades' for your lenses.
There is a third party 24-70 lens with IS but I forget the brand.
I was very happy using my 17-55mm IS with my 650D It was my workhorse.
It taught me a lot and the constant aperture with great.

Now I shoot primes because my style of images has developed.
I was a need to replace my great for the photos I wanted to create.

Regardless of 'extra money' I would never spend that money of gear without a reason.
Take that money and go in a trip to a new location. Even if just another city or state.
Photography new subjects with what you already have.

After the trip if there is a limitation in your gear, then consider replacement.


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Feb 11, 2015 21:06 |  #4

I'll echo the other two folks.

First, I love my 24-105. If I had to choose one lens, that would be it. There is a lens review thread where I said essentially that. That said, look at what you need. "Love" of a lens from others means little to me. If a lens is good and can meet my needs, and I need/want it, I'm going to buy it, regardless of others' "love".

Second, if you're looking for a lens to meet your needs in the $1000 range, go for it. If on the other hand you have $1000 available to spend and you think a lens would be a way to go, I'm with InfiniteDivide. Use it to take a trip. Take a photo seminar. Spend a long weekend in a place you'd like to visit. I'm outside DC, and have done cheap weekends to NYC - bus, backpack, nice hotel, subway for travel in the city. It's all about the photography, not the equipment. Oh, and as regards lenses, on one of the NYC trips, I brought a 12-24 and a 50 for my 5DM3. It was a perfect combo.

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Feb 11, 2015 21:49 |  #5

^ On a trip I would be a minimalist. To NYC I would take the 70D the 10-18mm and the 55-250 Thats it.
You would be there to photograph the place, and while the 17-50 is a 'good' range the two lens combo is far superior.

On a comical note, you could send the money to me,
I am considering the new 16-35 IS and your money would make all the difference ;)
PM me for details about this offer.


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Feb 11, 2015 22:13 |  #6

I'm going to be the first one to ruin the 24-105 party. It's probably one of the worst lenses I've used. It was slow and the images were just flat compared to the 24-70 (even against the mark I model). The two sharpest, best Canon zoom lenses in this range are the 24-70 Mark II and the 70-200 Mark II. IMHO I would put your money back in your pocket, save up some more and get one of those. Looking at what you have the 70-200 might be a better fit. Just an FYI f you do decide on the 24-105 you could probably pick up a new one for ~ $650 and put the other $350 in your pocket. I sure wouldn't put anymore out than that because this lens has tanked in price compared to other Canon "L" lenses.


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Feb 11, 2015 23:03 |  #7
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15-85.


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Feb 12, 2015 03:36 |  #8

i, too, love my 24-105
i, too, don't care if others love theirs or not.


but with that said your parameters listed above are:

1.) general all purpose
2.) non variable aperture
3.) longer than 70
4.) 1k or less

what other choices were you even entertaining? It sounds like you are trying to give yourself a reason to get the 24-105. so do it!! :-P


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Feb 12, 2015 04:56 |  #9

15-85, you'll find yourself using it at 15 or 85 mm most times. Image quality is still perfect. As long as it's not a prime at f/1.4 or something don't worry about the various aperture that much.


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Feb 12, 2015 06:03 |  #10

I loved my 15-85 (and unlike the previous poster, i used it at all focal lengths).
Question is, do you need to have the 15-24 range? If so, the 15-85 is a good choice.
If not, the 24-105 will probably suit you better.

If you're looking for a lens to complement the 17-50, but you think the 55-250 is too big to carry all the time, you might look into the 85mm.

I should say I had a 15-85 that I sold to fund a 17-40 when I went full frame. I still own an 85mm and I've taken a few shots with the 24-105. I love all of them, and in my mind I keep asking myself if I need a 24-105. But I keep going back to using primes.


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Feb 12, 2015 07:05 |  #11

24-105 is soft in the corners and distorts at all focal lengths other than 35, using it on a crop camera eliminates the softness and greatly reduces the distortion. For those reasons I am a much bigger fan of this lens on my XSi. It's wide enough for most situations and the long end is extra long on crop. I'd say go for it, that will leave you some extra money to buy a prime like the 85 1.8


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Feb 12, 2015 09:46 |  #12

thanks for the comments, My main use of my camera is on vacations and I normally go on a cruise twice a year plus other small trips. So I am trying to put together a good travel kit that works for me. The ship has lots of low light areas and I am pretty happy with the 17-50 and 50 1.4 for that. When I get off the ship I will also take the 10-18 and im looking for something with a little more reach for walking around with. When i look back at my last couple trips I vary rarely shot anything under 24mm, so thats why im looking at a 24mm plus lens.


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Feb 12, 2015 09:51 |  #13

the tamron 24-70 is an option also, seems like a decent lens for the money.


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Feb 12, 2015 09:53 |  #14

How much of a concern is size, weight, and general portability?


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Feb 12, 2015 10:21 |  #15

Dshae wrote in post #17428590 (external link)
thanks for the comments, My main use of my camera is on vacations and I normally go on a cruise twice a year plus other small trips. So I am trying to put together a good travel kit that works for me. The ship has lots of low light areas and I am pretty happy with the 17-50 and 50 1.4 for that. When I get off the ship I will also take the 10-18 and im looking for something with a little more reach for walking around with. When i look back at my last couple trips I vary rarely shot anything under 24mm, so thats why im looking at a 24mm plus lens.

Based on this, get the 24-105, as long as 105 is enough additional reach. For my taste, the 24-105 is great on crop body. The only reason I do not have one myself is that I prefer the 15-85 for the wider end. To me, the variable 3.5-5.6 aperture vs. constant 4.0 makes no difference for the intended use, and both have IS, so it comes down to the focal length that works for you.

Also, since you plan to have the 10-18 with you alongside it, then yeah, I would definitely go with the 24-105.


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