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Feb 12, 2015 13:43 |  #61

Sometimes I think people (and corporate employees) confuse Copyright with Trademark usage, and even with Trademark usage violation complaints the complainers are often wrong. But as with many things, sometimes it isn't worth the effort to prove or argue right from wrong.


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Feb 12, 2015 16:07 |  #62

Alveric wrote in post #17428806 (external link)
It's precisely this that is unsettling. Copyright is being taken to ridiculous extents (sometimes even we, photographers, do that as well). I certainly understand a company taking issue if someone gets photos from their products off their website and uses them on an eBay listing –although even then, I admit that the company is being quite anal: after all, if Justin Focus is using your photos to sell something he owns, it means you already profited from selling said item to him in the first place; guess the company's beef is that they're not selling NEW stuff: makes me think that if they had it their way they'd press legislation banning all reselling of used items and have everyone buy new all the time and then throw away or keep/use it forever –quite a draconian way to ensure that they remain in business.

But I digress.

What is unsettling is that copyright infringement can be escalated to 'every single item is a design protected by copyright laws, ergo any photo taken of it is illegal'. Heck, if that happens most of my work and portfolio is gonna be illegal.


Just wondering if this is why so many TV series will tape over or fuzz out the symbols on the cars used in the shows.


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Feb 12, 2015 16:38 |  #63

dadgummit wrote in post #17429105 (external link)
Just wondering if this is why so many TV series will tape over or fuzz out the symbols on the cars used in the shows.

They do that so as not to give free advertising to the company.

It costs big bucks for 'product placement' in a film or tv show and they will not give it away.


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Feb 12, 2015 16:45 |  #64

Ron Bailey wrote in post #17429146 (external link)
They do that so as not to give free advertising to the company.

It costs big bucks for 'product placement' in a film or tv show and they will not give it away.


+1 -- this is the correct statement about 'blurring' ... companies pay big bucks (sometimes) to have a brand in a bar scene, or a scene shot in a specific restaurant chain.




  
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Feb 12, 2015 16:48 |  #65

And; they can be sued for showing a Lexus, if Lexus doesn't want to be freely associated with the show. 2 areas of concern...


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Feb 12, 2015 17:00 |  #66
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dadgummit wrote in post #17429105 (external link)
Just wondering if this is why so many TV series will tape over or fuzz out the symbols on the cars used in the shows.

Maybe. I know that stock agencies reject photos with corporate logos on them. Hard to take some cityscapes without those nowadays, so you see the problematic.


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Feb 12, 2015 18:39 |  #67

Apparently some corps (most?) will want money from the show for showing their logo, not the other way around. Makes no sense (free adverts), but I guess at the same time they guard their brand closely.




  
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Feb 12, 2015 19:34 |  #68

Just want to add Manfrotto management and distribution are poor even though I own a lot of their products including tripods, stands and bags. Seems it is the US Distributor and not the Italian manufacturer. In one case, I bought a bag from Costco that was a smaller version than advertised. The label, tags and even the box were wrong, so not Costco's fault but Manfrotto's error. I contacted the US Distributor several times, even sending proof of purchase and photos. They failed to do anything after initially responding. Costco on the other hand was sympathetic and discovered the entire stock was mislabeled. After two months, even Costco's own buyer couldn't get Manfrotto US to respond, so they just refunded my money.

This BS with EBay also is from the US Distributor. Such a poorly managed operation makes you wonder who is at the helm and how they got there.




  
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Feb 14, 2015 09:08 |  #69

I have a very good condition Manfrotto tripod for sale. Of course since this a Manfrotto and I am not a recognized dealer the black market price is ultra inflated....




  
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Feb 14, 2015 17:25 |  #70

Update:

Still no contact from Manfrotto. My guess is they realized their mistake and are just letting a sleeping dog lie.

Here is a link to the auction in case anyone wants to examine the photos: http://www.ebay.com …_trksid=p3984.m​1555.l2649 (external link)




  
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Feb 15, 2015 22:04 as a reply to  @ Ron Bailey's post |  #71

From what I understand, showing a logo is incidental... such as an otherwise person wearing a shirt with it... it's ok, but still many tv people would rather not take the chance of even having to defend it.


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