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1D3, 7D or stay with 60D?

 
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Feb 13, 2015 07:47 |  #16

I have a 60D as well, an would love to upgrade - but it's tough camera to get away from. It produces very good images with likable features.
You have the 6D for still shooting and general use, so you're well covered there. I'd love go that route as well :).

Without a number of samples it's hard to say, but certainly trading your 60D for the 7x would make sense to get the more robust AF for your action needs.




  
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Feb 13, 2015 08:53 |  #17
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I didn't find much kids playing soccer here, but enough fantastic BIF shots to suggest what I am doing wrong. Shutter speeds over 1/1000 and stopped down just enough to get the best out of his 70-300L. I am framing quite loosely, in order to get in some of the environment and the other players. If I crop heavily to single out my grandson, the IQ goes down accordingly. I think I'll try deploying my 100-400L before considering another body.

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What kind of shutter speeds are you using?
I also suggest going to http://www.flickr.com (external link) and do a search for 60d action photos and even 60d photos in general. I'm not saying there aren't better sports cameras out there, but I've seen some excellent action photos taken with the 60d. I myself have taken nice action shots with the 60d/ tamron 70-300vc combo. When I get a chance, I can upload some photos. I'm away at the time being.

I went back to LR and looked at the shutter speeds. Most were 1/1000+. I think focal length is my bigger problem. It is going to be about six weeks before any springtime athletics start up. Indiana is still under a nice (yucxk!) blanket of snow. Thanks. (For the help. I know the snow isn't your fault.)


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Feb 13, 2015 09:01 |  #18

I always stop the lens down as well to get more depth of field.


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Feb 13, 2015 09:04 |  #19

Also, I know this sounds ridiculous, but you're using servo, correct? What type of metering? If you're in broad daylight there is no reason to not have low iso high shutter speeds and stopped down lens.

Iirc the 60d can shoot at 1/8000. You're nowhere near that. Up it.


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Feb 13, 2015 10:44 |  #20

Personally, if I was doing that little action. I wouldn't be adding a 3rd body to the mix. I think the 60D can do what you would like it to do... but you could always dump the 60D and pick up a 70D? or any other "action" body for that matter.




  
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Feb 13, 2015 11:05 |  #21
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Lichter21c wrote in post #17430235 (external link)
Personally, if I was doing that little action. I wouldn't be adding a 3rd body to the mix. I think the 60D can do what you would like it to do... but you could always dump the 60D and pick up a 70D? or any other "action" body for that matter.

I am going to stick with the 60D. Using a longer lens and higher ISO/shutter speeds should help, too. I don't see the 70D as much of an improvement over the 60D. It features crippled 7D AF, and little else. A 7D would be cheaper and offer more AF options. Coming from 60D, I don't feel it is worth the price of admission.


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Feb 13, 2015 11:16 |  #22

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17430272 (external link)
I am going to stick with the 60D. Using a longer lens and higher ISO/shutter speeds should help, too. I don't see the 70D as much of an improvement over the 60D. It features crippled 7D AF, and little else. A 7D would be cheaper and offer more AF options. Coming from 60D, I don't feel it is worth the price of admission.

I concur. Plus the 7D is a noise monster. You can tame it, but still a monster.




  
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Feb 13, 2015 11:28 |  #23

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17430272 (external link)
I am going to stick with the 60D. Using a longer lens and higher ISO/shutter speeds should help, too. I don't see the 70D as much of an improvement over the 60D. It features crippled 7D AF, and little else. A 7D would be cheaper and offer more AF options. Coming from 60D, I don't feel it is worth the price of admission.

I concur. I think a lot can improve with technique (...and possibly with the EF 100-400 IS MkII?...). I've shot some equestrian (granted, not too challenging) with the 60D and the 5D3 and I got all keepers with both. Non-keepers had to do with major fouls on my part. I had done BIF a couple of times with the EFS 18-200 with excellent results as well (although I had NO IDEA what I was doing, shooting high FPS with One-shot/all points):

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Feb 13, 2015 11:33 |  #24
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Yep. Sticking with the 60D for a while.


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Feb 13, 2015 12:38 |  #25

No fair - I was hoping to live vicariously through you on that upgrade! Oh well.

I do have a question though. I've often considered adding a 6D to my own 60D, how do you find owning both as a somewhat casual shooter? i.e., do you have enough opportunity to seek out situations where choosing a body really matters?

Actually - never mind, I'll just read through your "Is it just me" thread" :)




  
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Feb 13, 2015 12:47 |  #26

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17430318 (external link)
Yep. Sticking with the 60D for a while.

If you feel your action photos aren't good with the 60D maybe you should work on your technique and stick with it for some time.

When I upgraded to my 60D some time ago, at first my pictures didn't get any better because I was the one needing to upgrade my skills.




  
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If you feel your action photos aren't good with the 60D maybe you should work on your technique and stick with it for some time.

When I upgraded to my 60D some time ago, at first my pictures didn't get any better because I was the one needing to upgrade my skills.

Certainly good advice. I don't do much action photography. Static and candid stuff is good, so I thought I knew what I was doing. I will exhaust the 60D's potential before considering a more complicated toy. Thanks all.


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Feb 13, 2015 13:41 |  #28

As FRODGE mentioned are you using AI Servo? This will help dramatically. By using AI Servo the camera will continue to focus the entire time your shutter is partially depressed. I would also recommend using back button focus, it takes a little to get used to but once you do it for a couple times it becomes second nature.

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Feb 13, 2015 16:44 |  #29

Lichter21c wrote in post #17430235 (external link)
Personally, if I was doing that little action. I wouldn't be adding a 3rd body to the mix. I think the 60D can do what you would like it to do... but you could always dump the 60D and pick up a 70D? or any other "action" body for that matter.

I just out my flame suit on, but I wouldn't personally touch a 70d or 7dii yet. I know the internet and forums in general is where people come to complain, but I do feel that there is a qc issue or calibration issue. Although there are people that are happy with these bodies, I also see enough seasoned veterans who have moved to these two bodies that have experienced bad focus issues. I personally wouldn't enter that lottery, at least not now.


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Frodge wrote in post #17430706 (external link)
I just out my flame suit on, but I wouldn't personally touch a 70d or 7dii yet. I know the internet and forums in general is where people come to complain, but I do feel that there is a qc issue or calibration issue. Although there are people that are happy with these bodies, I also see enough seasoned veterans who have moved to these two bodies that have experienced bad focus issues. I personally wouldn't enter that lottery, at least not now.

You found something we totally agree on! Remember about 5 years ago, when the 7D was released, there were the same kind of issues. They quietly went away after a year or so. I am not totally convinced that Canon did make some behind-the-scenes fixes. It certainly looks like there are similar goings on with the 70D/72D bodies.

Both the 60D and 6D were slammed heavily when released. Neither have displayed the kinds of issues the 7D2 and 70D have shown.


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