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Is 35mm wide enough for Europe?

 
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Feb 20, 2015 07:43 |  #1

Going to Europe ( England, Scotland, Italy, France and Spain) later in the year and I'm trying to decide on a lens selection to take. I'm not sure if 35mm will be limiting.


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Feb 20, 2015 07:51 |  #2

A prime will always be more limiting than a zoom, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. Whether or not it suits your needs will depend on your subject matter and style.

Are you using a FF or crop sensor? What do you anticipate shooting?


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Feb 20, 2015 07:55 |  #3

I tried the 16-35 2.8 for a bit and didn't like it as much as the 35mm prime. We will be visiting lots of castles, country areas and spending some time in the bigger cities (London, Paris, Rome). I've never been before so I'm not really sure what to expect. Shooting on a 6D.


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Feb 20, 2015 08:03 |  #4

For the 6D a 24-105 will cover 90 percent of what you might see. For the rest, well I found a 12-24mm Sigma useful in tight quarters and cathedrals.


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Feb 20, 2015 08:33 |  #5

For my needs 35mm is an ideal focal length for walking around. It's perfect for street shots and environmental portraits, and it's adequate for scenic work. If you're packing light, it will be a good choice, but you will likely encounter moments where 24mm would be better. UWA junkies will insist that you go wider, but I don't think it's necessary.

I prefer the 16-35 over the 24-105 insofar as they overlap, but YMMV. If your mind is made up to shoot a prime, and you don't need anything longer, then I think a 35mm will suffice. If you can swing it, add a 24mm.


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I lived in Germany for 5+ years as a member of the US Army. If I were taking a FF camera and one lens to Europe, that lens would be my 17-40. If I were taking two lenses, I'd add the Rok 14. Stick to the tourist traps of London, Paris, Madrid, and such and you'll be fine with a 24-105. If the point is to bring back some unique views of interesting subjects, take something wider.


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Feb 20, 2015 09:07 |  #7

I've been to all the locations you mention, multiple times, and found a 28mm to be the most used lens. These days, wanting to lighten the bag, I cover the bases with a 24-70 zoom. In most museums and to a lesser degree churches you can't use a tripod so take advantage of high ISO. I limit to about 3200 and learn to prop against poles, pews, etc.




  
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Feb 20, 2015 09:20 |  #8

If youre on the moon europe would fit just in :)

Joking, i think you should go wider, as there arent many tall buildings but not enough space to back up...


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John from PA wrote in post #17440610 (external link)
I've been to all the locations you mention, multiple times, and found a 28mm to be the most used lens. These days, wanting to lighten the bag, I cover the bases with a 24-70 zoom. In most museums and to a lesser degree you can't use a tripod so take advantage of high ISO. I limit to about 3200 and learn to ptop against poles, pews, etc.

I don't get the museum thing. My cousin and I poke fun at each other over this stuff. He shoots every object in a museum. I think Google-Images will net you better shots of most things IN a museum. I take shots OF the museum itself. The architecture and overall setting is something I can get MY shots of. For that, especially in Europe, you'll need something WIDE. The stuff in the museum, not so much. End result? We are both happy with what we get.


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Feb 20, 2015 09:49 |  #10

go wider if possible. I had a zoom 18-55 and wished it was wider, kids had a 14mm lens and it was perfect :)


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Feb 20, 2015 10:01 |  #11

I do have a 15mm fisheye. That could suffice. The current idea was the 135mm f2 and 35mm f1.4. I'll have a look for a 24mm prime. Thanks!


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Feb 20, 2015 10:23 |  #12

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I do have a 15mm fisheye. That could suffice. The current idea was the 135mm f2 and 35mm f1.4. I'll have a look for a 24mm prime. Thanks!

Don't make a fisheye your main lens. In fact I probably wouldn't even take it. Consider renting (if you can down under) what you might need.




  
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Feb 20, 2015 10:32 |  #13

IMO 35mm is surely not wide enough for Europe : small streets, churches, buildings etc. 28mm still often feels too tight, but 24mm should cover most cases. Personally I would always prefer zoom lens to prime for travel because of the flexibility. I'd pick a 24-105L or 17-40L over any prime for an europe trip any day.


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Feb 20, 2015 10:38 |  #14

I should have added that the kids and I were using the lenses on crop cameras, so effectively we were 20-something mm. I agree, a fish-eye is not exactly what you want.


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Feb 20, 2015 12:03 |  #15

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17440660 (external link)
I don't get the museum thing. My cousin and I poke fun at each other over this stuff. He shoots every object in a museum. I think Google-Images will net you better shots of most things IN a museum. I take shots OF the museum itself. The architecture and overall setting is something I can get MY shots of. For that, especially in Europe, you'll need something WIDE. The stuff in the museum, not so much. End result? We are both happy with what we get.

I believe there are a lot of stuff to shoot inside museums. Take for example the the huge outside clock on Musee d'Orsay shot from inside, or a interesting view of the Rome's Panteon dome when you shooting straight up while lying on the floor, or, I think the most important, a photo of your wife standing next to the statue of Victory (Nike) in the Louvre!

Yes, in Europe you need to have a wide lens. The cathedrals are huge, the streets - narrow, and now room to back up. After many trips there I ended up with only one lens, 15-85 on a crop, and later replaced it with the 24-105 on full frame (the same FOV). I used to take an ultrawide with me, but used it so seldom that eventually I left it at home.


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