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Feb 19, 2015 14:54 |  #1

I am a hobby photographer looking to set up a small studio in my basement. I have a Yungnuo 560ii and I absolutely love it. Should I get more 560ii's that are manual or should I go for ttl? Btw I'm also getting the Yungnuo 622 trigger and receiver.




  
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Feb 19, 2015 15:20 |  #2

I use the YN-568ex's with the YN-622c's. Basically the same as canons 580exII. Works well and has TTL and HSS. Just depends on what you need really. I like being able to control it all from the back of my camera as well, so I don't have to go around to all the flashes and change the powers manually. Especially when I have them positioned high on light stands around the room.


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Feb 19, 2015 15:25 as a reply to  @ tagnal's post |  #3

Would I still have to adjust all my flashes manually if I have the 622 or could that control manual flashes as well?




  
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Feb 19, 2015 17:26 |  #4

lilchristian2010 wrote in post #17439504 (external link)
I am a hobby photographer looking to set up a small studio in my basement. I have a Yungnuo 560ii and I absolutely love it. Should I get more 560ii's that are manual or should I go for ttl? Btw I'm also getting the Yungnuo 622 trigger and receiver.

For studio style work stay away from ettl. Ettl is great for dynamic shooting where your flash to subject distance is constantly changing. In a studio setting all ettl will do is cause inconsistent exposures.

If you like the 560 then check out the newer 560iii's, 560iv's, and the 560-tx. Same great flashes (well the tx is not a flash) but now the 560-tx can manually control 560iii's and 560iv's in 6 different groups. Or the 560iv can be used as a master and manual control other 560iv's and 560iii's but in only 3 groups.

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Would I still have to adjust all my flashes manually if I have the 622 or could that control manual flashes as well?

The 622 system will not allow manual control of flashes like the 560.




  
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Feb 20, 2015 10:01 |  #5

+1 to 560-III + 560TX combo, works like a charm in my 5-speedlight basement studio. Consider more expensive TTL/HSS flashes only if you plan to use the lights outside of your studio.


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Feb 20, 2015 14:57 |  #6

But, if you ever want to use them outside the studio, the extra features would help. Ever plan to do outdoor portraits? Even if you don't, just because a flash has a feature, doesn't mean you have to use them. I rarely if ever, use TTL. Although, I have used HSS a lot outdoors.

But, if you are absolutely sure you will never use any of those added features, then you can save a few bucks by going with the 560s. I actually have a mix of both.


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Feb 20, 2015 17:26 |  #7

pulsar123 wrote in post #17440705 (external link)
+1 to 560-III + 560TX combo, works like a charm in my 5-speedlight basement studio. Consider more expensive TTL/HSS flashes only if you plan to use the lights outside of your studio.

I will second this.

You will note the 560IV is the same price as the III on amazon and may be tempted to not get the TX because the IV's can control, but the clean interface on the TX is totally worth the $40-50.


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Feb 20, 2015 19:46 |  #8

nes_matt wrote in post #17441402 (external link)
I will second this.

You will note the 560IV is the same price as the III on amazon and may be tempted to not get the TX because the IV's can control, but the clean interface on the TX is totally worth the $40-50.

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Feb 20, 2015 20:08 |  #9

I'm new to studio as well, and I'm using a yn568ex II, yn500, 622 triggers and 622tx controller. I tried ETTL and felt that it changed the lighting all the time on me. So I use manual mode and it's way easier to adjust. I start off with in camera settings of F8, 1/160-180th, ISO 100, and work the flashes to what I'm trying to do.


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Feb 21, 2015 07:57 as a reply to  @ pulsar123's post |  #10

What other lights do you have in your 5 speedlight setup?




  
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Feb 21, 2015 08:02 |  #11

Thanks everyone for the advice. I think I will get three 560iv's and a 560tx for my studio and in the spring go for 2 568's for outdoor portraits.




  
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Feb 21, 2015 10:06 |  #12

lilchristian2010 wrote in post #17442167 (external link)
What other lights do you have in your 5 speedlight setup?

The following lights:

1) 60" octagon softbox (key or fill);
2) 46" translucent umbrella with back covered ("halo" light; key or fill);
3) 36x9" strip box with grid, attached to the ceiling at an angle, behind model (hair light);
4-5) Two background lights - two 32" silver umbrellas (for high key), or one light with honeycomb grid and gels (for normal backgrounds). In the latter case the fifth speedlight can be used for special effects (rim light etc.).

This gives me enough of flexibility for almost any kind of portrait - from head shot with a spot lighted background, to 5 people full height high key portraits.


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Feb 21, 2015 10:07 |  #13

nes_matt wrote in post #17441402 (external link)
I will second this.

You will note the 560IV is the same price as the III on amazon and may be tempted to not get the TX because the IV's can control, but the clean interface on the TX is totally worth the $40-50.

I think even more importantly 560TX supports up to 6 groups of flashes, whereas YN560-IV can only operate 3 - usually not enough for a studio.


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