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Is 35mm wide enough for Europe?

 
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Feb 25, 2015 15:46 as a reply to  @ post 17449220 |  #46

you can do a pano, and I suspect it's easy enough to capture, however it really depends on the TS. Capturing a full building may not be the end game for everyone. Consider some wide structure, like the golden get bridge. Everyone likes the idea of capturing the whole bridge with people included, however using a telephoto to capture people, and only sections of the bridge, may produce a more pleasing photo. Just different points of view.


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Feb 25, 2015 15:53 |  #47

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Capturing a full building may not be the end game for everyone.

That's why for European travel I caution against limiting oneself to a single focal length, which is not wide enough at that. Too many different things that vary from little medieval villages with their huge cathedrals to old walled towns to modern cities.




  
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Feb 26, 2015 16:57 |  #48

If I were forced to have just one lens, that would be the 16-35 or equivalent UWA.

On a recent trip, I carried both a 16-35 and 24-70, the latter being on the camera most of the time. You'll need, IMO, UWA reach inside churches/cathedrals and some tight streets which seems to happen often, for everything else, the 24-70 will be it.


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Feb 26, 2015 21:45 |  #49

I've travelled to Europe a few times and for me, 35mm is not wide enough. In fact, I would want something wider than 24mm. Needless to say, my 16-35 gets a huge workout when traveling.


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Feb 26, 2015 22:29 |  #50

For me, I use an old 28-70mm on a 5D or 1n. Unless I'm in low light, that's all I ever use on trips. All of my other lenses are for more controlled environments and are more activity-specific. I like having a zoom, but I don't need 5x or anything.




  
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Feb 27, 2015 02:34 |  #51

Yes, 35mm wil be limiting, although when I did my "big trip" years ago that was the widest I had.

Telephoto (70-200) focal lengths are useful both in the countryside (esp. Scotland) and because of the crowds in the cities.

But the main reason I'm posting this is to point out that cities like London and Rome, which I've been to, and probably Paris, which I haven't, don't in fact have tiny narrow streets compared to Australian cities. I don't know Perth, but if you've been to Melbourne that's about as wide as London streets are. Actually, our laneways are narrower than the little Soho streets. Both London and Paris were severely mucked about in the 19th century with wide streets driven through. Additionally, there isn't the overhead electricity wiring we have.

What you will find, in the "high season", are crowds, which tend to push you towards ultra-wide or telephoto focal lengths.




  
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Feb 27, 2015 03:03 |  #52

melcat wrote in post #17451964 (external link)
But the main reason I'm posting this is to point out that cities like London and Rome, which I've been to, and probably Paris, which I haven't, don't in fact have tiny narrow streets compared to Australian cities. I don't know Perth, but if you've been to Melbourne that's about as wide as London streets are. Actually, our laneways are narrower than the little Soho streets. Both London and Paris were severely mucked about in the 19th century with wide streets driven through. Additionally, there isn't the overhead electricity wiring we have.

I don't really understand this way of thinking, where you have to measure the size of the buildings and the width of the streets in order to decide what lens to take with you on holiday.

I don't have much interest in pictures of 'stuff' (buildings, streets, objects etc) - I'd far rather try to record the experiences. And for that, a fixed prime with a perspective and field of view as close as possible to the way I see things is the best tool. If I was travelling to any city, anywhere, I'd use a 50mm on FF, regardless of the size of the roads.


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Feb 27, 2015 03:45 |  #53

aldownie wrote in post #17451981 (external link)
I don't have much interest in pictures of 'stuff' (buildings, streets, objects etc) - I'd far rather try to record the experiences. And for that, a fixed prime with a perspective and field of view as close as possible to the way I see things is the best tool. If I was travelling to any city, anywhere, I'd use a 50mm on FF, regardless of the size of the roads.

That's a valid point of view, but probably not the OP's, otherwise they never would have asked the question.

Also, some of the rural sights, at least in the UK, are fairly deserted on weekdays, so there's really only scenery to photograph.




  
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Feb 27, 2015 08:18 |  #54

melcat wrote in post #17451997 (external link)
Also, some of the rural sights, at least in the UK, are fairly deserted on weekdays, so there's really only scenery to photograph.

I was born in Scotland and now live in <choke> England, and I'm not sure what you're getting at. You mean a standard lens is not suitable for landscapes/scenery?


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Feb 27, 2015 08:45 |  #55

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I was born in Scotland and now live in <choke> England, and I'm not sure what you're getting at. You mean a standard lens is not suitable for landscapes/scenery?

Nothing to do with the fact that I'm from Scotland too, but I agree with you and have to say I find this the most bizarre thread. The title makes me laugh every time I read it. It's like asking, "How long is a piece of string?", in my view. It all depends....


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Feb 27, 2015 08:58 |  #56

aldownie wrote in post #17452160 (external link)
I was born in Scotland and now live in <choke> England, and I'm not sure what you're getting at. You mean a standard lens is not suitable for landscapes/scenery?

Not as suitable as a zoom, no.

I did most of my touring of Scotland by bicycle, and by far my most used lens was my 70-210mm (film kit, not EOS). With the changeable weather, it wouldn't have been an option to cycle closer to the suibject to frame it in 50mm, assuming the road even went the right way. Sometimes the magic light only appeared for a couple of minutes.

It may be different if you live in a place and can go back again and again to nail the shot with your one focal length, but you're addressing suggestions to an OP who'll be sitting on a plane for 20 hours to get there and probably has limited time in any one location.




  
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Feb 28, 2015 03:06 |  #57

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I believe there are a lot of stuff to shoot inside museums. Take for example the the huge outside clock on Musee d'Orsay shot from inside,

Assuming you are happy to ignore all the "No Photography" signs that are inside.


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Feb 28, 2015 03:36 |  #58

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I've already been looking for a 24-70 f4. ... My current potential setup will be the 35mm, 24-70 ... and 135mm.

Sounds to me like a good plan.




  
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Feb 28, 2015 05:53 as a reply to  @ Vendee's post |  #59

If d'Orsay has begun prohibiting photography, that' s terrible. In 2007 it was completely open to shooting inside.


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Feb 28, 2015 08:33 |  #60

Just wondering what is different between "going to Europe" Vs "going to city / town" ;-)a

Take an easy, guys: any lenses should do and enjoy your holiday - you're not in a mission :D


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