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Feb 24, 2015 20:42 |  #16

I just bought a used Sony Alpha 7 and $20 FD adapter. I'm pleased as punch with its size and image quality. My 5Dii does a bit better with noise and resolution, but the Sony has about 2 stops more of dynamic range. I doubt I'll use my 5Dii much anymore, except in the studio.


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Feb 24, 2015 22:18 |  #17

Tony-S wrote in post #17448310 (external link)
I just bought a used Sony Alpha 7 and $20 FD adapter. I'm pleased as punch with its size and image quality. My 5Dii does a bit better with noise and resolution, but the Sony has about 2 stops more of dynamic range. I doubt I'll use my 5Dii much anymore, except in the studio.

The 5Dii has 3mp less resolution than the a7....


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Feb 24, 2015 22:51 |  #18

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17448454 (external link)
The 5Dii has 3mp less resolution than the a7....

There's more to resolving power than than pixel count. The a7 has 2650 lines of resolution vs 2820 lines of resolution for the 5Dii.


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Feb 25, 2015 01:24 |  #19

Tony-S wrote in post #17448514 (external link)
There's more to resolving power than than pixel count. The a7 has 2650 lines of resolution vs 2820 lines of resolution for the 5Dii.

I'd be willing to bet that neither you nor your clients would be able to tell the difference between a print from either.


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Feb 25, 2015 07:58 |  #20

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17448688 (external link)
I'd be willing to bet that neither you nor your clients would be able to tell the difference between a print from either.

I didn't say otherwise. In fact, you could say the same thing about an 8 mpix camera, too, depending on the print size. I just pointed out that the 5Dii outresolves the Sony Alpha 7 and corrected your assertion that more pixels means higher resolution.


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Feb 25, 2015 17:06 |  #21

Well, I made the switch.

A7ii and A6000 along w/ the 16-50PZ on the a6000 and the 24-70Z/4 and 70-200G/4.

I love the size and weight difference of this system. I'll eventually add some primes to the bag but also in other mounts w/ adapters. Love the image quality I've seen out of them already and will test out more this weekend.


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Feb 25, 2015 17:19 |  #22

You have to try the 55 1.8 Zeiss. It looks like the sharpest lens DxO has ever tested!


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Feb 25, 2015 21:44 |  #23

Made the switch from 6D to A7 primarily for the weight benefit and the ability to use cheaper, legacy lens. Hopefully I won't regret it!




  
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Feb 25, 2015 21:47 |  #24

Not sure between a Sony FF mirrorless or Canon 135mmL which one is going to make me lose wallet weight, sooner!


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Feb 27, 2015 15:56 |  #25

I've been shooting with the Canon 6D and A7 for a few months now. Interesting combo. The A7 offers great dynamic range and is really light, but the 6D does better at higher ISOs.


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Feb 28, 2015 11:34 |  #26

This is a quite informative read. I'm thinking of swapping myself.

I have a 5D2. I have a 17-40L, 28/2.8, 50/1.4 & 135L but I mainly seem to shoot with manual C/Y & M42 lenses. I use the 17-40L very rarely, the 135L quite rarely, the 50/1.4 the most & the 28/1.8 for landscapes.

I don't shoot motorsports, I don't shoot sports, I don't shoot wildlife. Mainly days out, the kids, landscapes/coastal, general urban wandering..... Take a look here - https://www.flickr.com​/photos/ratters445/ (external link)

I'm thinking maybe the A7 or possibly A7s would suit me but how much do I need to budget for EF, C/Y & M42 adapters too on top of the cost of the Sony body??


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Feb 28, 2015 12:03 as a reply to  @ LeeRatters's post |  #27

EF adapter, 60-100 third party + flock paper $30

CY/M42 adapters 10-20 a pop.

A7 mod, $400 if using short flange lenses like M mount.


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Feb 28, 2015 12:47 |  #28

Here is what I did and recommend to try... Before I made the switch I wanted a test run so I picked up a used Sony A7 for 800 bucks. Barely used, shuttercount was 3500... Then I picked up a cheap manual EF-NEX adapter (25ish from Fotodiox). So for 825 I was able to test the system with my EF lenses, although wide open only, no aperture setting. If I hated it I was able to sell it in 5 minutes for 750... the fact is I don't, I absolutely love it. I shoot the sony more than I did the canons simply because I can take it everywhere and it is not a hassle. I came from a 1Ds and a 1Ds II combo which I got tired carrying around...
Since then I picked up a Canon Fd 55 1.2 non aspherical for $220, an Olympus Zuiko MC 28 f/2 for $190 and my favorite the Konica 40 f/1.8 for 60 bucks.
I'm in love with the EVF. This thing is insane. You can literally see the DOF and the bokeh in the electrical viewfinder (my old cameras did not even have live view). I set the camera to Auto ISO (limit to 3200 or 6400), I manually adjust shutterspeed (depending on focal length and subject) and I set the aperture on the lens picking the DOF I want. I can see how it changes by turning the aperture ring on the lens (the viewfinder brightness stays constant to a point as the camera increases the ISO for me). There is a dedicated exposure compensation dial on it so I can adjust "brightness" to my liking. When I push the shutter button the live view I'm looking at freezes and that is my picture (with a little bit of lag of course). DONE. I was blown away when I first learned this...

For the battery life concern: the 1Ds and 1Ds II shared the same battery at 325g. The 1Ds II was able to do 800-1200 shots on a freshly (!) charged battery but I always had to take at least one extra just in case. So that is 325g extra weight. The Sony A7 aftermarket Wasabi battery ($20 a pair charger included) is 42g so I can take 5 of it and still be ahead of the Canon monster weight-wise.

All that being said I had a hard time tweaking the colors to my liking. I think I found a good setting which gives me colors I like but I miss the Canon colors. My Canon bodies are so old that I'm keeping them just in case.

This was taken with the 135L wide open manual focus (the full size version is also available on flickr for pixel peeping):

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Seriously... 800 bucks for a year or so old full-frame camera... how cool is that??? :D

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Mar 01, 2015 12:28 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #29

Thank you for the comments.

Do people have actual recommendations for adapters that they have used or do use please? There seem to be so many out there with differing reviews.

I'd need

EF > Sony E
C/Y > Sony E
M42 > Sony E [although I do have a M42 > C/Y so I guess I could get around that one]

Used A7 seems to go for about £640 here [cheapest] bought privately/eBay.


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Mar 01, 2015 12:42 |  #30

I only have a Fotodiox FD adapter for my a7. My M42 lenses simply cannot compete with the FD in terms of IQ and color, especially at wider apertures. I had three C/Y Zeiss lenses at one time (28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.7, 135mm f/2.8) and they were all very good, too, but not any better than the Canons I have in that group (24mm f/2, 50mm f/1.4, 135mm f/2).


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