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Feb 28, 2015 16:59 |  #1

After a four-year hiatus, I'm able to start shooting again. A very long story!

I've been using Elements 6.0 (no, not a typo, that's really a 6!)

I figure it's time to upgrade. I hate upgrading because I hate relearning how to do the same thing you used to know how to do a whole new way; usually involving pulling out a manual or online help!)

Now that I have to do it, it seems like I ought to do it right. I've heard Elements 13 is a bear and am thinking about 11.

I don't do much more than edit pics, so Elements 6 is fine. I am kind of hoping that my 'new' version will be less cumbersome to use.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


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Feb 28, 2015 17:15 |  #2

It's unclear from your post about why you feel the need to upgrade?


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Feb 28, 2015 17:23 as a reply to  @ Damo77's post |  #3

Agree with Damien. If it's not going to gain you anything, why upgrade?

Although I have to say that I'm pretty darn happy with Lr 5. I used PS for many years and seemed to always struggle to do things that Lr makes easy. I now do 85% of my post processing in Lr and could probably do more if I took the time to figure out how to do masking and cloning. Not a bad deal for the $50 I originally paid.

Anyway, my suggestion would be to download and install the 30-day trial of PSE and LR5 then see if there's any reason why you need to upgrade in either direction.


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Feb 28, 2015 18:05 |  #4

I would HOPE that there have been some upgrades and changes over time that would MAKE me change! Maybe more modern filters, or a 'Repeat this group of commands' button! An "Instant HDR" button. Something!

I'm content enough with 6, but figured it is 6 versions behind current. Surely something has changed in all of those releases to make us upgrade!


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Mar 01, 2015 06:54 |  #5

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I would HOPE that there have been some upgrades and changes over time that would MAKE me change! Maybe more modern filters, or a 'Repeat this group of commands' button! An "Instant HDR" button. Something!

I'm content enough with 6, but figured it is 6 versions behind current. Surely something has changed in all of those releases to make us upgrade!

I think the biggest change to come to PSE is that I understand (as I'm a CS5 user) that they have finally sorted out layer masks so that they work the same as they always have in full photoshop. It always seemed silly that you had to play games to get layer masks to work. Not sure but I think you also get some of the content aware stuff, which can also be pretty useful, in the latest version. If I were going to buy a new version I would always get the latest one, even the latest version of PSE can be found pretty cheap if you look for it.

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Mar 01, 2015 07:22 |  #6

I have not used Elements for years so do not know if it has an easy way of adjusting colour temperature. LR does this with a simple slider; LR is very easy to use.
If you are only tweaking colour and exposure then LR is brilliant and easy to use without instruction. Though looking at the help file on each button and slider is fairly instructive.


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Mar 01, 2015 09:32 |  #7

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I have not used Elements for years so do not know if it has an easy way of adjusting colour temperature. LR does this with a simple slider; LR is very easy to use.
If you are only tweaking colour and exposure then LR is brilliant and easy to use without instruction. Though looking at the help file on each button and slider is fairly instructive.

Current versions of PSE has a cut down version of ACR, which is mostly limited to the tools in the basic tool panel. This includes the WB, Exposure/Contrast, Highlight/shadow/white​/black and Clarity/Vibrance/Satur​ation as well as the Sharpening and NR tools. This will actually cover much of what many people will do in LR. With the added benefit of a proper layers based pixel editor. Elements also has a image management system, that is in may ways like a cut down version of the LR library module. This is actually quite different from Bridge, which although providing the similar functionality for the full PS, is really a file manager application. For those wanting the full Library and ACR processing then yes LR is really good, although you still need a layers based pixel editor, such as PSE or the full PSCS/CC. The library functions have been in PSE since PSE6.

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Mar 01, 2015 09:39 |  #8

Go here for a simple comparison of Elements 7 vs. 8 vs. 9 vs. 10 vs. 11 ...note the table comparing features

http://prodesigntools.​com …ces-between-versions.html (external link)


And then this compares the three most recent versions of Elements

http://www.adobe.com …ng-guide.html?PID=2159997 (external link)

User reviews shown on Amazon for Elements 11 are rather enlightening
http://www.amazon.com …0&sortBy=byRank​Descending (external link)


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Mar 01, 2015 21:44 |  #9

I just switched from 6 to 12. If 6 does all you want I would advise you to stay with it.




  
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Mar 02, 2015 14:57 |  #10

Look at reviews, read feature lists, ect. Do you see anything in them that makes you go "Hey, that looks really useful, and I would like to have that!"?

If not, then why upgrade? (This applies to pretty much everything in life. Not just software.)


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Mar 02, 2015 16:53 |  #11

LW Dail wrote in post #17454143 (external link)
After a four-year hiatus, I'm able to start shooting again. A very long story!

I've been using Elements 6.0 (no, not a typo, that's really a 6!)

I figure it's time to upgrade. I hate upgrading because I hate relearning how to do the same thing you used to know how to do a whole new way; usually involving pulling out a manual or online help!)

Now that I have to do it, it seems like I ought to do it right. I've heard Elements 13 is a bear and am thinking about 11.

I don't do much more than edit pics, so Elements 6 is fine. I am kind of hoping that my 'new' version will be less cumbersome to use.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

I hear you, but it's worth it sometimes. I had Lightroom 1 and Lightroom 2, then for a few years I used Aperture. Now that Aperture is abandoned, I'm back to Lightroom with v5 and while there are many things different, it's those differences that make it magic. Lightroom is soooo much better now than in the early days. By better I mean better algorithms, more and useful tools, etc. I'm resistant to change, but sometimes it works out for the best.

Now, for your questions, I can't offer anything. I had elements (I assume you mean Photoshop Elements), but almost never used it.


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Mar 07, 2015 09:07 |  #12

Well, looks like I'm about where I need to be. Not one to change for the sake of change, I'll remain where I am!

Thank you all for the comparisons and the insight. I really appreciate your help!

When I thought about the question "Why?" I would think about changing, I realized it's my Power Shot 340HS (the 'shove in my purse' camera that replaced an earlier ELPH).

I accidentally activated the "Creative Shot" mode and enjoyed the results.

It would be fun to have an 'instant' filter with the different results, but I'm not willing to go through the meddlesome results of the upgrade!


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Mar 07, 2015 09:12 |  #13

I would upgrade. Obviously, you do not know if you need to or what is new and improved with the upgrade but when you do upgrade you will likely find it much improved.
Go for it.


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