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Feb 18, 2015 14:22 |  #721

This was a challenging shot. A string of red Christmas lights behind her and another in front of her. A strobe high and camera left was metered at f2.8. The shot was taken with a 3-stop ND filter at f1.2 with the Canon 85L. There wasn't enough ambient light to achieve focus. So a friend shined a flashlight in her face until I was able to get a focus lock, and then the flashlight was turned off prior to taking the shot. We all wanted to see what the bokeh would look like at f1.2!

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Feb 18, 2015 15:13 |  #722

^very cool!


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Feb 20, 2015 13:41 |  #723

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Mar 17, 2015 00:50 as a reply to  @ post 17429646 |  #724

Something about this photo just makes me happy. Composition, model, light - everything just organically falls into place.


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Mar 17, 2015 03:10 |  #725

Hi all. I hope you dont mind, but I use High Speed Sync instead of my neutral density filter, for the exact same effect:

F2, 85mm 1/6000, 3 speedlights in a shoot through

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Mar 17, 2015 08:01 |  #726

NIce shots, pretty model, but the point of the thread is to share images that were made using a wide open (or near) lens + ND filter + strobes (or flash). I'm sure there is a thread somewhere dedicated to images made with multiple speed lights.


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Mar 17, 2015 08:06 as a reply to  @ idsurfer's post |  #727

No Problem, The goal I thought was wide open, as I did, and i just used a different method. I am happy to delete the post and shall ;-)a

#edit, i cant delete it, a mod/admin, feel free to do so


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Mar 17, 2015 12:00 |  #728

idsurfer wrote in post #17478739 (external link)
NIce shots, pretty model, but the point of the thread is to share images that were made using a wide open (or near) lens + ND filter + strobes (or flash). I'm sure there is a thread somewhere dedicated to images made with multiple speed lights.

You admonish someone for not accurately following the theme of the thread and then you add your own inaccuaracy to your caveat.... "(or near)"! It does not say "or near" in the thread title. Here is the thread title copied and pasted so as not to be confusing "Post your Wide Open + Neutral Density + Strobe(s) photos". Here is your own comment, from the previous page, in representing one of your images "Here is another shot with the filter…I think is works pretty good. 85 1.8 @ f/2". If we are splitting hairs then f/2 is not wide open on a f/1.8 lens. It is "near" wide open but all the same not wide open. :-)


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Mar 17, 2015 12:17 as a reply to  @ nazmo's post |  #729

ND or not, I really like number 2:lol:




  
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Mar 17, 2015 21:22 |  #730

agv8or wrote in post #17479060 (external link)
You admonish someone for not accurately following the theme of the thread and then you add your own inaccuaracy to your caveat.... "(or near)"! It does not say "or near" in the thread title. Here is the thread title copied and pasted so as not to be confusing "Post your Wide Open + Neutral Density + Strobe(s) photos". Here is your own comment, from the previous page, in representing one of your images "Here is another shot with the filter…I think is works pretty good. 85 1.8 @ f/2". If we are splitting hairs then f/2 is not wide open on a f/1.8 lens. It is "near" wide open but all the same not wide open. :-)

Holy smokes buddy.. Relax! I hear what your saying, but "admonish" may be a bit strong! My comment was made very gently without criticism, reprimand or upbraid. In fact I complimented the photog on the images. This said, I was simply shedding light on the general purpose of the thread. That being to share images made with fast lenses + neutral density + strobes….with the operative term (and likely the key element) being neutral density. I do not think differentiating between using a ND filter and shooting HSS is by any stretch of the imagination "splitting hairs". ND filters and HSS are two very different methods (that have beed discussed ad nauseam for that matter) to achieve the same effect when shooting wide apertures outdoor in bright light. There are many shots in this thread (not just my own) that were taken at "near" WO, all of which I think are perfectly appropriate for sharing. Yes, WO vs very close to WO is splitting hairs…but splitting hairs was not the purpose of my comment. I was simply attempting to direct the photog to a thread that might be more appropriate. I'm surprised you didn't comment on me splitting hairs between "strobes (or flash)"!


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Mar 17, 2015 22:34 |  #731

idsurfer wrote in post #17479708 (external link)
Holy smokes buddy.. Relax! I hear what your saying, but "admonish" may be a bit strong! My comment was made very gently without criticism, reprimand or upbraid. In fact I complimented the photog on the images. This said, I was simply shedding light on the general purpose of the thread. That being to share images made with fast lenses + neutral density + strobes….with the operative term (and likely the key element) being neutral density. I do not think differentiating between using a ND filter and shooting HSS is by any stretch of the imagination "splitting hairs". ND filters and HSS are two very different methods (that have beed discussed ad nauseam for that matter) to achieve the same effect when shooting wide apertures outdoor in bright light. There are many shots in this thread (not just my own) that were taken at "near" WO, all of which I think are perfectly appropriate for sharing. Yes, WO vs very close to WO is splitting hairs…but splitting hairs was not the purpose of my comment. I was simply attempting to direct the photog to a thread that might be more appropriate. I'm surprised you didn't comment on me splitting hairs between "strobes (or flash)"!

I guess it all depends on how thick of a hair you're trying to split?

I happen to agree that posting HSS images in this thread may not be the most appropriate place but I can see how someone, especially since there is no recent thread dedicated to the theme of images taken in HSS, could easily assume that this thread would be accepting of alternative methods without using ND filters if it were so stated, which the poster did in his opening statement. I guess he was wrong and I am sure he will not make that mistake again.

I prefer the synonyms of "advise" or "recommend" to the ones you used..."reprimand and upbraid", they sound a bit too brash for the tone in which I ment my post to be taken. After all I did put the smiley face at the end in hopes that my post would be considered more sarcastic than serious. It is never my intention to upset someone, especially to the point to where they would call me "buddy". If you cannot see the humor in the irony of someone, who themselves is not strictly following the theme of a thread, telling someone else that they should post elsewhere because they are not following the theme of the thread, well I guess you just do not have a sense of humor.;-)a


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Mar 18, 2015 00:12 |  #732

Wow, I really started something hey!
To be clear, I didnt take any offense in any comments made, and am more than happy to have the post deleted.

That being said, my next shoot I will use my ND filter, I prefer HSS as its easier to focus without an ND filter, and my instincts tell me the picture quality might be a hair better with one less piece of glass, hence my preference


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Mar 18, 2015 08:08 |  #733

Very well Rand. However, you must keep in mind that while comments posted to internet forums may be lighthearted and made in jest, these intentions are not always apparent through the written word….smiley face or not. It's for these reasons that unless someone has directly asked my advise, I have been VERY reluctant to comment beyond the standard "nice shot" in my years using POTN. Nazmo, I'm happy you did not take offense in my comment, certainly none was intended. FWIW, if I hadn't posted I believe someone else likely would have.


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Mar 18, 2015 10:35 |  #734

Cory like I said I do not post to be intentionally combative or to upset anyone, there are too many posts like that already where people like to poke at the bee's nest just to stir up trouble and I definitely do not want to be one of them. Reading through these forums there are numerous posts that do not follow the theme of the thread precisely but usually if it is a big enough issue the mods will either leave a comment or just move it to an appropriate place in the forum. You are right that lighthearted (or sarcastic) comments made in jest do not translate well through the written word and can take on different meanings to different people. We all read and see things differently just as you and Nazmo had a different take on the theme of the thread. In catching up on this thread and having just read through the previous pages I found your comment to Nazmo a bit hypocritical albeit in a humorous way. Like Ron White says "I had the right to remain silent just not the ability". With the introduction of more powerful strobes having HSS capability it is becoming a more likely option than using ND filters so hopefully someone will start a thread allowing for the posting of images using ND filters and/or HSS.


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