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Mar 18, 2015 14:03 |  #106

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Is it wrong of me as an EM10 owner to come here and get insanely jealous about the A7s ISO capabilities?....

Nope. When talking about low light performance the A7S beats all other full-frame cameras and beats the crap out of all APS-C cameras. Well, I guess I don't have to tell you what it does to a M43 camera. :lol:


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Mar 18, 2015 15:33 |  #107

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Mar 19, 2015 20:12 |  #108

Oh, almost forgot....The jumping one was shot with a mitros+, FS stoppers flash disc and iso 12.8000




  
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Mar 21, 2015 23:31 |  #109

Rarely do i know what I'm doing but here is my first night attempt with the A7s and the 24-240mm-

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Mar 22, 2015 01:05 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #110

The noise is awful for being ISO250 on an A7S. What is causing this amount of noise? Maybe ETTR would have taken care of the noise?


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Mar 22, 2015 08:31 |  #111

I dont know....I'm struggling with the A7s.


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Mar 22, 2015 10:04 |  #112

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The noise is awful for being ISO250 on an A7S. What is causing this amount of noise? Maybe ETTR would have taken care of the noise?

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I dont know....I'm struggling with the A7s.

It was a long 26 second exposure...the noise is coming from that. I know it's a pain, but this is why I keep Long Exposure Noise Reduction switched on.

And this is a good study in why it's great to have both an a7R and a7S. For this shot, the exposure settings make the a7R a vastly better choice. But, if you wanted to take the same picture with a faster shutter speed and higher ISO, then that would favor the a7S.

How about this as a rule of thumb: if you want to use your tripod, then reach for the a7R. But, if you want to take a handheld shot in low-light, then reach for the a7S. And for handheld shooting in good light, take your pick: either are great. :)


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Mar 22, 2015 10:46 |  #113

Thanks David. I appreciate any and all clues and instruction. And for that shot the a7r was in the bag and two feet away. I never thought to try it.


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Mar 22, 2015 12:10 |  #114

David Arbogast wrote in post #17486524 (external link)
It was a long 26 second exposure...the noise is coming from that. I know it's a pain, but this is why I keep Long Exposure Noise Reduction switched on.

And this is a good study in why it's great to have both an a7R and a7S. For this shot, the exposure settings make the a7R a vastly better choice. But, if you wanted to take the same picture with a faster shutter speed and higher ISO, then that would favor the a7S.

How about this as a rule of thumb: if you want to use your tripod, then reach for the a7R. But, if you want to take a handheld shot in low-light, then reach for the a7S. And for handheld shooting in good light, take your pick: either are great. :)

I wouldn't necessarily say that. The a7S should still have the edge over the a7R in terms of long exposure noise as well. In fact I read several reviews before buying mine that said it's arguably the best camera out for astro work.


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Mar 22, 2015 13:41 |  #115

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I wouldn't necessarily say that. The a7S should still have the edge over the a7R in terms of long exposure noise as well. In fact I read several reviews before buying mine that said it's arguably the best camera out for astro work.

In a lot of astro work ISO levels have to be pushed quite hard - especially if you want to capture pin-sharp star detail with relatively short shutter speeds. That is where the a7S enjoys a strong advantage. But, ISO 250 is a low ISO setting. I could be wrong, but I don't imagine the a7S has any advantage over the a7R at ISO 250 (whether a long exposure or not). And the sheer resolution of the a7R means more actual detail is preserved. That is why I would reach for the a7R in that scenario. I wish that I could test them both out to see how they perform at low-ISO long exposures.

The a7S has a valuable place and so does the a7R. To my knowledge, with respect to photography, (not video) the a7S' main photography image quality advantage is at high ISO levels. But, I am open-minded if that can be shown not to be true.


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Mar 22, 2015 19:40 |  #116

Every nuance of the A7s being uttered I'm taking in like a sponge...in three ish weeks I should be on Easter Island digging a new Moon and I'd hoped the A7s would be the ticket.....in fact I've shot the MilkyWay way before at 8000-10000 ISO and was pleased...but low ISO with the camera is new to me AND that shot above critised for noise was via the Playmemories Smooth Reflection app....a contributor? That said for the Milky via the A7s I'll keep the ISO high and the exposure as short as possible.

p.s. I finally got home, ran this questionable pic through strong Topaz DeNoise JPG and it is now somewhat better.


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Mar 22, 2015 23:09 |  #117

A7S + FE24-240mm
I'm loving the combination - versatile shooting with minimum gear: A7S takes care of the light (or lack thereof), FE24-240 takes care of the range.

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Mar 23, 2015 00:32 |  #118

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17486040 (external link)
Rarely do i know what I'm doing but here is my first night attempt with the A7s and the 24-240mm-

There's something crazy going on near the leftmost streetlamp. Maybe something to do with the RAW compression?


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Mar 23, 2015 03:14 |  #119

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There's something crazy going on near the leftmost streetlamp. Maybe something to do with the RAW compression?

I'm not sure anymore how the streetlamp at the far left looked like in the original image, but apparently he has applied some really aggressive noise reduction to the image now, taking away most of the detail and giving this silky smooth, no noise look.


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Mar 23, 2015 03:21 |  #120

Yes I mentioned above I ran the original through aggressive Topaz DeNoise once I got home from the trip....and also mentioned the pic was via a Sony App-Smooth Reflections.


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