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Any views on a new 6D?

 
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Mar 23, 2015 12:10 |  #61

articulated screen would increase the size too much. Plus, WiFi and the Canon remote app for your phone is a much better option than an articulated screen. I want a nice small (relatively) body with great IQ. Don't need more AF points but all of them being cross type would be nice. Better IQ/DR and a few more MP are the only thing I'd change.


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Mar 23, 2015 12:20 |  #62

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17488237 (external link)
articulated screen would increase the size too much. Plus, WiFi and the Canon remote app for your phone is a much better option than an articulated screen. I want a nice small (relatively) body with great IQ. Don't need more AF points but all of them being cross type would be nice. Better IQ/DR and a few more MP are the only thing I'd change.

They put articulating screens on Rebels. I'm not following your increased size argument.


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Mar 23, 2015 12:43 |  #63

FEChariot wrote in post #17488251 (external link)
They put articulating screens on Rebels. I'm not following your increased size argument.

rebels have small sensors and small mirrors.


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Mar 23, 2015 20:37 |  #64

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17488284 (external link)
rebels have small sensors and small mirrors.

And yet they were able to put articulating screens on Rebels without increasing the size of them. A 6D2 with an articulating screen would be about the size of a 6D just like a 70D which has an articulating screen is no bigger than a 60D without one.


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Mar 23, 2015 21:44 |  #65

FEChariot wrote in post #17489020 (external link)
And yet they were able to put articulating screens on Rebels without increasing the size of them. A 6D2 with an articulating screen would be about the size of a 6D just like a 70D which has an articulating screen is no bigger than a 60D without one.

The 60D has an articulating screen.




  
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Mar 24, 2015 03:24 |  #66

I don't care if they drop the wifi and gps, I never use them.

I would like articulating screen.

I would like intervalometer

I would like a better AF,

Glass on the back screen and on the top screen.


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Mar 24, 2015 04:08 |  #67

Mark0159 wrote in post #17489438 (external link)
I don't care if they drop the wifi and gps, I never use them.

I would like articulating screen.

I would like intervalometer

I would like a better AF,

Glass on the back screen and on the top screen.

+1!!! Articulated screen would be very useful for me too


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Mar 24, 2015 08:16 |  #68

Me, AF first, other things after that. Being Canon it will be another 10 yrs before they do that though.


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Mar 24, 2015 10:15 |  #69

MedicinSC wrote in post #17489133 (external link)
The 60D has an articulating screen.


Oops. OK so that argument is a fail so how about this one instead? The 60D and 70D with articulating screens were no actually made smaller than the 50D without one. My point remains that the size of the camera will not change with or without an articulating screen. You lose space for the side or bottom control buttons which will either not be available or be part of other multi functional buttons. Heck Canon could actually catch up to the rest of the world and integrate them into a proper touch screen.


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Mar 26, 2015 05:59 |  #70

FEChariot wrote in post #17489772 (external link)
Oops. OK so that argument is a fail so how about this one instead? The 60D and 70D with articulating screens were no actually made smaller than the 50D without one. My point remains that the size of the camera will not change with or without an articulating screen. You lose space for the side or bottom control buttons which will either not be available or be part of other multi functional buttons. Heck Canon could actually catch up to the rest of the world and integrate them into a proper touch screen.

I think you're going off track, just increase the fps and buffer in the 6D




  
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Mar 26, 2015 09:45 |  #71

FWIW, I got some hands-on with the 6D at BB, and even with the 24-105, it feels not as bulky as the 60D. Maybe its just my perception and I'll rent one to see how I get on with it, but the articulating screen feels like it does add bulk. Both actually are nearly identical (except depth) otherwise if you measure them. Not complaining about the articulating screen btw.


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Mar 26, 2015 21:17 |  #72

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I think you're going off track, just increase the fps and buffer in the 6D

I can confidently say that if that is all they upgrade in the 6D2 over the current one, it will not be my next body. I am hoping for a full frame 70D as a minimum.


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Apr 03, 2015 07:18 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #73

comparing old tech vs new tech when saying that adding an articulating screen wouldn't add to the size, doesn't take into account advances in manufacturing and materials over the last 7 years since the 50D. The 6D is narrower than the 70D and only 15g (.5 oz) heavier despite having a magnesium alloy body, where the 70D is all plastic.

Logic and my own experience cobbling various things together tells me that to add something outside the main body would add to the bulk and weight, would it be significant? that's a judgement call. It's also another place for water to enter the body and an additional point of potential failure. having repaired a couple of laptop screens, the hinge is where things go wrong.

and again, the wifi tethered shooting is vastly superior to any tilt screen.YMMV

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755 g (1.664 lb)

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Apr 04, 2015 11:10 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #74

Well I guess we will find out when they release a mk2 with a tilt screen- or not if they don't.

I definitely agree about the added risk of failure, but I think Canon is going to save the more robust build for the 5 and 7 series bodies and keep the 6 and xxD series the same.

And tethered shooting isn't going to work for me in the situations where I would most want to use a flip screen like chasing bugs for macro or shooting astro shots where I'm using a tripod and already heavy tracker and I have to hike to the location and wouldn't want to carry a laptop in addition. So that's why I am hoping for a flip screen.


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Apr 04, 2015 11:45 |  #75

FEChariot wrote in post #17504227 (external link)
Well I guess we will find out when they release a mk2 with a tilt screen- or not if they don't.

yup. :D

And tethered shooting isn't going to work for me in the situations where I would most want to use a flip screen like chasing bugs for macro or shooting astro shots where I'm using a tripod and already heavy tracker and I have to hike to the location and wouldn't want to carry a laptop in addition. So that's why I am hoping for a flip screen.

only time i tether with a laptop is in the studio.

i use wireless with the 6D and my iPhone which has worked almost flawlessly for me. I use it mostly with Real Estate shots where i might have to put my camera all the way in the corner of a room. It's rare but at times even a flip screen would get in the way or be impossible to use.

i've used the same combo for some astro stuff but that is just a hobby.

I didn't become a believer in the 6D's wireless until i was put in a position where it was the only thing that would work. At this point i will never buy another camera without it. Especially since i have this little thing to charge my phone with my flash battery. http://www.cheetahstan​d.com/product-p/cl-usb.htm (external link)


edit: not trying to keep you from dreaming, but until you have used wireless with a phone i think it's hard to see that a flip screen is kind of redundant. I know it was hard for me to imagine. I'm going to keep dreaming of an enhanced EOS Remote app for iOS.


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