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Mar 13, 2015 22:07 |  #1

What would you choose between these three great cameras and why?

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Mar 14, 2015 01:10 |  #2

To me these cameras are targeted to sports and wildlife photographers.

FPS matters to these type of shooters. The Canon 70d does 7 frames a second Raw, the 7d does 8. The Nikon states it shoots at 7 FPS but that is in JPEG. It only does 5 in Raw. Of course the new 7D Mark II is the best Sports camera short of the $6,000 flagship models, but if you can't justify that much money on a camera body, my choice would be the 70d or the the older 7d. If you ever take video, the 70d is a very good video camera. If you need video occasionally, that places the 70d over the 7d. Don't use video or any of the fancy stuff like remote shooting with using your Smartphone as the controller, then the old Canon 7d is the better choice for most people.

Now having said that, if you are not shooting high speed sports, wildlife such as BIF, or video, the Nikon is the better still camera of these three.


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Mar 14, 2015 23:08 |  #3

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First of all 7D came out in 2009 as opposed to other 2 that are introduced early in 2013. I really don't think it is fair to keep 7D in comparison group so it is out for me totally. Now between the other 2:

I would and will chose 70D for sure, because:
1- My greatest number of available lenses are Canon.
2- I love the video quality of 70D with excellent AFing and Touch screen that even alleviates need for focusing rig.
3- Touch screen and articulated LCD are must for me... I am a total addict to this to the extend than since I bought my T4i, my bigger babies like 5D and 1Ds started to take dust.
4- Buffer wont fill fast like D7100 in burst mode.
5- I love the internal build in Wireless of 70D because I know how to use it and know how it can significantly help me.

My only wish on 70D is for a faster AF in still mode and more than 19 focusing points, surely something similar to 5DIII, then Build in GPS.

Having said all, if I had more Nikkor lenses, I would go for D7100 as it is not very far away (Except lack of touch screen, articulated LCD and WiFi. And the optional GPS or WiFi wont cut it for me as I know how troublesome and handicapping those are.
That is to compliment my other bigger dark body, D800E or D810 depending on my financial status.
Talking of Money, don't forget that right now Nikon has special deal on Refurb D710 for $699 that is an excellent price.
New Grey market 70D runs for $750 often so very close call.

Among the Nikons also I would look seriously into 5300 but lack of internal motor in the cheaper body and unability to use my AF on many of the older, otherwise excellent Nikkor lenses is a major draw back on D5300, despite its build in GPS, WiFi and articulated LCD, (though it still doesn't have Touch screen).


If you care about quality reviews and not simply money making BS reviews, have a careful look at this:

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Side note, If I know a little about Nikon is because I seriously was/am considering a switch to the dark side.


I have a D7100 and use my AF-S 70-300ED VR on it i picked them both up for about £600, i dont use video, nor find a need for touch screen, i dont like swivel screens(another part to go wrong or break) i also dont shoot in bursts of shots so the buffer is not an issue, i like the options with the different focus settings including different tracking settings, i like the fact that the focus can see down as low as -2, and that the center focus point is active as a cross type from f8 not f5.6 like most, i like the viewfinder display it is not designed with line contacts but is independent, i also like the viewfinder readout it is White and black so real easy to see.
I love the batt compartment the door is sealed, as is the card door.

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Mar 17, 2015 01:40 |  #4

Ok. Seems something is not right tonight.
Now not only I am adequately insulted, but I am confirming talking to totally wrong crowd.
I am sorry and remove my reply with a promise not to be back in this thread.


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Mar 17, 2015 15:02 |  #5

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Ok. Seems something is not right tonight.
Now not only I am adequately insulted, but I am confirming talking to totally wrong crowd.
I am sorry and remove my reply with a promise not to be back in this thread.


Ayy?? i am just biggin my camera up, its been a long time since i was very happy with a camera, the last one was a Canon EOS 650 Film camera.

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Mar 22, 2015 16:25 |  #6

The Nikon D7200


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Mar 27, 2015 20:47 |  #7

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The Nikon D7200


The D7200 would appear to be just an improvement over the D7100's burst rate, video capture and slightly better battery life, everything else is the same i believe.

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Mar 29, 2015 06:51 |  #8

I would choose the D70 for the better FPS, and video that can be controlled a lot better.
Both great cameras, the D70 has a flip screen for video!




  
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Mar 29, 2015 13:11 |  #9

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Ayy?? i am just biggin my camera up, its been a long time since i was very happy with a camera, the last one was a Canon EOS 650 Film camera.

P.

OK. May be I acted impulsive to your unusual response (Felt merciless at this side).

You are absolutely right about NO merit of D7200 over D7100. In fact the real metal rugged body of D7100 is replaced by cheap, prone to break down plastic, just under the excuse that D7200 has WiFi and real metal causes attenuation of the RF...Nikon you are smart...Just wondering why you can't sale in USA.
Also currently (In my location) Nikon has D7100 body only, under Refurbished segment for sale, just for $699 that is a steal.

On the other hand since you say you have had a previous AF Canon body, I am not sure how many good lenses you may still have in the bag. If this is true, you are a lot better off with 70D. It is newer technology and one of the BEST video capturing DSLR bodies with the fastest dual contrast AF that is second to none and in fact is the GoldStandard for today's market (And I don't care if you do video or not. I am describing the merit of product that might be useful if it ever goes for resale). Yes 70D, will probably be replace by a new body soon, and it may actually receive more than makeup and facelift improvement, as the new generation canon sensors are out (Already on cheap T6 and pro quality 5Ds) and there is word of even +100 MP sensor, that Canon has already built and is probably timing the market for introduction... Nevertheless D7100 is already replace, but by not much more, when you have to pay twice the price for the new facelift one.

Bottom line, between 70D and D7100 (And just forget 7D, it is already obsolete), you simply can not go wrong. It all goes back to which line of product you would like to deal with, which one has better resale services in your area, and what other accessories, specially glass of either, you already own.

I hope to receive a better response, if any, from you this time. I am human with emotions:)


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Mar 29, 2015 15:28 |  #10

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OK. May be I acted impulsive to your unusual response (Felt merciless at this side).

You are absolutely right about NO merit of D7200 over D7100. In fact the real metal rugged body of D7100 is replaced by cheap, prone to break down plastic, just under the excuse that D7200 has WiFi and real metal causes attenuation of the RF...Nikon you are smart...Just wondering why you can't sale in USA.
Also currently (In my location) Nikon has D7100 body only, under Refurbished segment for sale, just for $699 that is a steal.

On the other hand since you say you have had a previous AF Canon body, I am not sure how many good lenses you may still have in the bag. If this is true, you are a lot better off with 70D. It is newer technology and one of the BEST video capturing DSLR bodies with the fastest dual contrast AF that is second to none and in fact is the GoldStandard for today's market (And I don't care if you do video or not. I am describing the merit of product that might be useful if it ever goes for resale). Yes 70D, will probably be replace by a new body soon, and it may actually receive more than makeup and facelift improvement, as the new generation canon sensors are out (Already on cheap T6 and pro quality 5Ds) and there is word of even +100 MP sensor, that Canon has already built and is probably timing the market for introduction... Nevertheless D7100 is already replace, but by not much more, when you have to pay twice the price for the new facelift one.

Bottom line, between 70D and D7100 (And just forget 7D, it is already obsolete), you simply can not go wrong. It all goes back to which line of product you would like to deal with, which one has better resale services in your area, and what other accessories, specially glass of either, you already own.

I hope to receive a better response, if any, from you this time. I am human with emotions:)

Hiya,

Firstly i apologize if i sounded a bit matter of fact, i kind of developed a thick skin towards being a nikon user, and i got a bit defensive towards owning what some have called - the best DX camera available in its broadest sense, i have been on a quest over the past few years for a DX camera that would come the closest to fulfilling my needs within my rather low budget.
After leaving 35mm SLR film cameras some years ago ( my last was the very excellent EOS 650 ) i went many years without a camera then i brought a nikon D40 that was a very basic DSLR but my first digicam, i then went through the following cameras - nikon D100, D70, canon 30D, nikon D200, nikon D90 and now D7100, i only ever have had just the one lens at a time, always tele zooms and my latest is the very good nikkor 70-300Vr.
I am surprised that there are not more posts on here about the D7100 as i expected it to be as interesting and conversation worthy as to have more topics on here, just like other bench mark cameras so often mentioned on here, i asked the question if i'm honest to create a conversation to see if any users of both types of camera would discuss the differences and qualities of each, not so much the more specialist attributes of the different cameras - buffer zone, swivel screen, video etc, but more importantly the actual picture taking qualities and auto focus accuracy.

Hopefully this has opened up a good entrance for a friendly conversation about this subject, and not a camera make bashing exercise.


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Mar 30, 2015 18:36 as a reply to  @ Pagman's post |  #11

Here at POTN most people dont bash, they just chilllllll
Yes the D7100 has great image quality with the right lens.
The 70D is not far behind, but it has some other cool features that has to be talked about.
Its a tough decision, just like saying PC or Mac......whatever you choose, it will be great!




  
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Mar 30, 2015 23:13 |  #12

I've spent some time editing some images from the D7100 and was really impressed with the quality and was surprised to see that the excellent sensor wasn't from Sony, but was made by Toshiba.


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Mar 31, 2015 05:48 |  #13

D7100 for best IQ (although I'm not sure how noticeable this is)
70D for best overall because of most features.
7D for sports because of longer buffer and more FPS I believe.


I chosed 70D over D7100 just because it was Canon


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Apr 18, 2015 08:48 |  #14

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What would you choose between these three great cameras and why?

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Hi Pagman,

I've been shooting the original 7D since 2009 and have been looking at my options regarding an upgrade path. Regarding the 70D, my gal has been shooting that camera for the past year and a half and I am quite familiar with the quality of the image files that camera can deliver. My brief assessment is this...basically a 1-stop improvement in ISO performance from the 7D and pretty much the same-old DR performance one can expect from Canon.

Which is why my search has led me to exploring what Nikon has to offer.

At the end of the day it's all about image IQ...or, what the camera's sensor can record. So, for me, given a choice between a camera that can deliver 10fps and lower image IQ vs a camera that can shoot 7fps with greater image IQ, I'll choose the latter. The cameras which currently have my interest in this search are Nikon's D7200 and the D810 (as it can shoot crop in DX mode).

My plan at this point is to grab a 7D2 and a D7200 (with some matching glass) and try both out during the spring migration and part of the summer to compare AF performance (read: keeper rate) and to compare files. I should have a pretty good idea, at that point, as to which will be staying in my bag and which will end up going bye-bye!

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Apr 22, 2015 22:50 |  #15

No mater what the blub blubbbs are about these cameras, I know a good deals very well and for anyone who actually follows this thread, here is a Burning HOT deal:

Nikon D7100, with 2 Nikkor kit zoom lens, package for $699 (55-300 VR and 18-55mm Nikkor Lens).
You simply can not find a better deal, or Camera for money.
Not sure who the seller is but seems has sold good number of high ticket price items recently with positive feedbacks from various buyers. Additionally you are covered by paypal if you go thought the right way and pay via ebay payment methods.
Item is marked as Refurbished, "Authorized Nikon USA refurbished items backed by a 90 day Nikon warranty".
Some 270 units are sold in last 24 hours and probably it is going to end at 300 or 400 units so if in market for one excellent camera look at the below:

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Again, this deal will not last long, if your are interested.


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