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Apr 03, 2015 15:31 |  #781

I've tried to think of another reason Canon designed in the zoom tension ring. I did think of another possible use. This lens has a pretty short minimum focusing distance. If I wanted to use it to shoot, say, a butterfly at less than 400mm, on a tripod.. I could lock down the lens at a shorter focal distance and wouldn't have to worry about lens creep.


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Apr 03, 2015 15:38 |  #782

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I've tried to think of another reason Canon designed in the zoom tensioning ring. I did think of another possible use. This lens has a pretty short minimum focusing distance. If I wanted to use it to shoot, say, a butterfly at less than 400mm, on a tripod.. I could lock down the lens at a shorter focal distance and wouldn't have to worry about lens creep.

True, but I guess a zoom lock would do this too, and would have been simpler.

Maybe the adjustable tensioning ring is just a holdover from the previous design. It is more versatile than a lock, but is a bit more fiddly. I'm happy with it but would probably also have been happy if it had come with a lock instead.


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Apr 03, 2015 15:50 as a reply to  @ Archibald's post |  #783

I don't think the lens lock on my 70-300L works at any zoom length. Let me check.

OK... the lens lock only works when the zoom is completely "in" or retracted@ 70mm. It won't engage at any other focal length.

The tension ring on the 100-400ii will work at any focal length.

I'm not saying this is "the" reason behind the design but it is one possible use of it.


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Apr 03, 2015 16:16 |  #784

The tension ring allows the zoom to be set at intermediate positions, whereas a zoom lock would lock it at 100mm. I quite like the tension ring.


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Apr 03, 2015 18:17 |  #785

Hey Phoenixkh---
As I have the 70-300L and keep reading all the accolades for the new 100-400, any thoughts to share? I love my 70-300 but would love some more reach although I can go with a 150-600 Siggy or Tammy to do that. Guess the question is is it worth even thinking of replacing the 70-300 with the 100-400?
Thanks. Pete


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Apr 03, 2015 18:42 |  #786

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Apr 03, 2015 19:50 as a reply to  @ post 17503521 |  #787

I SURE do miss the PUSH/PULL.... It felt really natural and smoother, especially for quick zooms, birds in flight, etc... I really prefer that over the awkward twist. But, that's my opinion. :-(


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Apr 04, 2015 02:57 |  #788

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Hey Phoenixkh---
As I have the 70-300L and keep reading all the accolades for the new 100-400, any thoughts to share? I love my 70-300 but would love some more reach although I can go with a 150-600 Siggy or Tammy to do that. Guess the question is is it worth even thinking of replacing the 70-300 with the 100-400?
Thanks. Pete

Pete,

I haven't been able to persuade myself to sell my 70-300L. It has been very kind to me.

The new 100-400ii is everything the 70-300L is and more, in my opinion. Take a look at the photographs on the two main 100-400ii threads (this one and this one: https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17503759). I'm very pleased with the results I'm getting as are so many others here.


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Apr 04, 2015 10:31 |  #789

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Jan, I've seen and paid little attention to most of the airline pics on this forum. They are just not my "thing" . These images on the other hand, all have compelling lighting and angles, they have wonderful "mood" to them. Very impressive!


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Apr 04, 2015 11:35 |  #791

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Jan, I've seen and paid little attention to most of the airline pics on this forum. They are just not my "thing" . These images on the other hand, all have compelling lighting and angles, they have wonderful "mood" to them. Very impressive!

Definitely eye-catching. I'm surprised though that you weren't arrested by Homeland Security!


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Apr 04, 2015 12:24 |  #792

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Apr 04, 2015 13:20 |  #793

Petie53 wrote in post #17503697 (external link)
Hey Phoenixkh---
As I have the 70-300L and keep reading all the accolades for the new 100-400, any thoughts to share? I love my 70-300 but would love some more reach although I can go with a 150-600 Siggy or Tammy to do that. Guess the question is is it worth even thinking of replacing the 70-300 with the 100-400?
Thanks. Pete

I can tell you my 70-300L has not come out of its case since Oct 31 2014, But in saying that I still think there is a great quality in the 70-300L but more so in the 100-400L II in that you can get that little bit more from the new tech, and it proves it to me every day.

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Apr 04, 2015 14:04 |  #794

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I don't think the lens lock on my 70-300L works at any zoom length. Let me check.

OK... the lens lock only works when the zoom is completely "in" or retracted@ 70mm. It won't engage at any other focal length.

The tension ring on the 100-400ii will work at any focal length.

I'm not saying this is "the" reason behind the design but it is one possible use of it.

Same as with my 18-135 STM, fwiw.


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Apr 04, 2015 16:09 |  #795

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I can tell you my 70-300L has not come out of its case since Oct 31 2014, But in saying that I still think there is a great quality in the 70-300L but more so in the 100-400L II in that you can get that little bit more from the new tech, and it proves it to me every day.

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