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Apr 07, 2015 13:00 |  #6331

Charlie wrote in post #17507970 (external link)
the A7ii and A6000 arent far off. A friend of mine has both and the AF is pretty close (massive difference compared to the A7r). Body wise, it's a substantial difference. The A6000 is toy like, while the A7ii is substantial.

Well that is some good news. Looking forward to the a7R II all the more.


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Apr 07, 2015 13:06 |  #6332

ekie wrote in post #17508004 (external link)
Supposedly the A7R II should be announced/coming out soon. It should have similar upgrades like A7 to A7II. IBIS, AF?, etc... although with how often Sony comes out with new bodies, their value drops rather quickly and its better to buy used I think. You can find some good deals. I got my A7R for $1100, which was the only reason I hop on the full-frame mirrorless system :). Still have my Canon (for weddings) and Fuji X though.

Interesting. I'm curious, what Fuji X do you have? That's been the other option I've looked into in my quest to go lighter and smaller. It's also very tempting (and a bit more mature than the Sony system), but has its own drawbacks too. Curious on your thoughts.


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Apr 07, 2015 13:13 |  #6333

One thing I liked about the Fuji XT1 EVF was the dual mode. You could have the full image in one part of the EVf and then a magnification of whats inside the focus box off to the side. That way you could manually focus with the magnifier at the same time as seeing the whole image for framing. I wished Sony had implemented that instead of switching to focus magnify and back again.


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Apr 07, 2015 13:32 |  #6334

If the X-T1 had ISO performance close to what my 6D had I would've been all over it. I loved the colors out of the X-E1 and I loved their lenses, but sadly past ISO3200 I wasn't happy with what I was getting, everything below that was great though, especially B&W's.

So far though, I'm really loving my a7S, so I don't see myself jumping ship for a good long while :)

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Apr 07, 2015 14:14 |  #6335

Puckman wrote in post #17507983 (external link)
I'm more and more thinking when (not if) i take the Sony plunge, it will be the A7ii (unless of course, they announce something new by then).
The location of the shutter button and ergonomics is a big deal for me. The IBIS is VERY intriguing (specially combined with the fact that I will have so many non-IS manual lenses). I'm loving the idea of all these smallish (light and easy to carry) manual lenses like the Voigtlanders, etc.

Right now, I'm thinking for about $3k all-in, I can get a "starter" Sony kit of the A7ii + the FE 24-70, so I have a workable system with a versatile enough focal range that's native (while I get used to the system).
Then, if it "takes", I can start adding manual lenses and deciding which of my Canon gear to sell or keep.

At least that's the plan as of today...YMMV.

Charlie, when you say you've seen the A7ii and the AF is "pretty close". Close to what? Are you comparing to Canon AF?

I was coming from the same point like you, and my advice is to buy the first lens which would do what you do the most. I got the 16-35 first as this was a lens i could compare to my canon eqivalent and because i shoot mostly with it. This way i became more familiar with the sony, but really, coming from canon its not that different. The most different thing is the EVF, and if i remember right you like the fuji x100 evf so this would be no problem either.

I then got myself the voigtländer 40 nokton to try out MF (never owned a MF lens before) and love it so far. For me that means, i can get other MF lenses as they are very compact compared to DSLR lenses which is a big plus. These two lenses and the A7R/A7S made me stay mirrorless as it is wonderfull to use.


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Apr 07, 2015 14:53 |  #6336

davidfarina wrote in post #17507847 (external link)
Totally. And i feel so comfortable using MF on my CV40 i am also getting shots of moving people etc at 1.4. focus spot on, sonetimes even when i think even AF would not have nailed it!

hmm....would you care to elaborate your technique on moving people.....prefocusing​??


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Apr 07, 2015 16:06 |  #6337

davidfarina wrote in post #17508150 (external link)
I was coming from the same point like you, and my advice is to buy the first lens which would do what you do the most. I got the 16-35 first as this was a lens i could compare to my canon eqivalent and because i shoot mostly with it. This way i became more familiar with the sony, but really, coming from canon its not that different. The most different thing is the EVF, and if i remember right you like the fuji x100 evf so this would be no problem either.

I then got myself the voigtländer 40 nokton to try out MF (never owned a MF lens before) and love it so far. For me that means, i can get other MF lenses as they are very compact compared to DSLR lenses which is a big plus. These two lenses and the A7R/A7S made me stay mirrorless as it is wonderfull to use.

This is exactly mirroring my thinking. I thought 24-70 as it is a bit more versatile than 16-35 (although I do spend most of my time on the wide end, as I shoot mostly landscapes).
And like you, my 2nd step would be to get a MF lens to try my hand and manual focusing and see if that's the way forward (and if so, I can start going for size/weight by replacing my Canon gear with small manual primes).


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Apr 07, 2015 17:55 |  #6338

Shot using my Canon FD 28 f2.8 lens at f2.8. I should play with this lens more. The bokeh is a bit busy and the vignetting is heavy wide open but it seems very sharp and manually focuses easily. This image is heavily cropped and I've added vignette back to help give the subject flowers a bit more pop.

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Apr 07, 2015 23:55 |  #6339

I really want to get a Samyang lens again, the 35mm was such a blast to use, and 135mm is my favorite focal length.

Anyways I have a few images to share but I've been slow to upload anything.

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The above was taken at ISO 32000 (not 3200) at F8 1/200 of a second, using the Nikon 105mm f/2.5.

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There was a fashion show this past week that celebrated it's 10th year. This image was taken with the Vivitar 70-205mm F3.5 lens.

Side note, I used the same lenses on the Fuji X-T1 for last year's fashion week. https://photography-on-the.net …ad.php?t=126362​6&page=161
I love both cameras and at first I was thinking about selling my Fuji and grabbing a 5DII+135L but after holding my friend's 5DIII, I'm like no!

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Apr 08, 2015 02:25 |  #6340

^^ I've still got my 5D2 and 135L as it is a lovely lens and produces lovely images even though I don't use it often. I haven't used it in the past month since I got my A7 so I'm getting torn now. I may sell it for a manual focus 135mm but it must be of the same image quality!! The thing then is I may as well sell the 5D2 and 430EX also which could be what, £1400 worth for all three??


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Apr 08, 2015 05:15 |  #6341

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^^ I've still got my 5D2 and 135L as it is a lovely lens and produces lovely images even though I don't use it often. I haven't used it in the past month since I got my A7 so I'm getting torn now. I may sell it for a manual focus 135mm but it must be of the same image quality!! The thing then is I may as well sell the 5D2 and 430EX also which could be what, £1400 worth for all three??

How do you like the 135L on your a7? Might you consider just keeping it and using it as a manual focus lens rather than selling and buying a different 135mm? At least with the 135L you've got full in-camera support (aperture control, lens EXIF, etc.).


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Apr 08, 2015 05:19 |  #6342

David Arbogast wrote in post #17508944 (external link)
How do you like the 135L on your a7? Might you consider just keeping it and using it as a manual focus lens rather than selling and buying a different 135mm? At least with the 135L you've got full in-camera support (aperture control, lens EXIF, etc.).

It is an option yeah you are correct. I've not yet bought an EF>E adapter though so I don't know what it's like to manual focus on the A7. I guess the advantage with older manual lenses is the fact they have a longer throw for focusing.


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Apr 08, 2015 06:18 |  #6343

LeeRatters wrote in post #17508947 (external link)
It is an option yeah you are correct. I've not yet bought an EF>E adapter though so I don't know what it's like to manual focus on the A7. I guess the advantage with older manual lenses is the fact they have a longer throw for focusing.

o the A7 series camera manual focuses well on my canon glass! better then what a 5d3 can do manually


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Apr 08, 2015 06:39 |  #6344

one question for people who have the CV 40mm 1.4. Do you see vignetting at 1.4?? Not sure if it is my hawk's adapter but at 1.4 i see vignetting....i had forgotten when the vignette disappears stopped down but it does go away when you decrease aperture.

EDIT: LOL, i should have googled first.....yes, it does vignette wide open.


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Apr 08, 2015 06:49 |  #6345

another question : sorry different questions.....

I read the Philip Reeve tip on shimmering pixels where he said that if you put sharpness to +3 (which makes the shimmering more apparent), you can see shimmering around the areas that are in critical focus. I tried this but i cant see these shimmering pixels.

Anyone can help me understand the tip, i might be missing something here.

Is this something that can be seen if you magnify or just at full view??

I am still having issues manual focusing with just focus peaking. What i do is i use focus peaking to get to the general area i want in focus and i do this not by checking the peaking on the actual subject which can be misleading but ALSO checking what other items are peaking if they seem to be in the same general area i then go to step 2 which is to magnify and then judge critical focus which can be a good amount of time moving back and forth to make sure i got critical focus. Of course this is important for very big apertures at f4 and above I can be a little loose.

how do you guys do manual focusing...


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