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Apr 13, 2015 13:38 |  #6436

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Couple of issues with that adapter....

I'm convinced the adapter is not the same thickness of a typical EF adapter. I get strange field curvature issues with the 14, and it can be problematic (infinity mark changed greatly with adapter). I have specific markers on my Rok 14 to achieve great focus and sharpness, however, if I deviate from that specific setting, field curvature can bite me hard. For my purposes of stopping down and tripod work with the adapter, it works fine, however I did spend some time dialing it in. I had to get the rok 14 stopped way down to F11 to cure all issues, and it does work very well corner to corner.

I havent had any issues with uneven shading at all, 99% of all 14mm shots I've shot since, have been using the ND throttle since I've purchased it. I'm aware of uneven shading with a standard variable ND, and have seen the issue with my 24-70 + variable ND, however the ND throttle does NOT have any of those issues. I would buy it from someone reputable with a good return policy. Not sure how the flange distance may effect the 11-24. It may or may not be an issue. There is a slight color cast, but no more than something like the lee big stopper (probably even less). Light stopping doesnt seem like 1-10 stops though, more closer to 2-8 stops.

Now that I've mentioned it's flaws, it's really great using the filter. I can dial precise shutter speeds quickly without doing mathematical guesswork and dealing with less than desirable aperture ISO settings/ND combos. I just wish that the flange distance was proper. I also have the tough E mount..... I think that changed distances a tiny bit, and some of my adapters wont even fit......

tough E mount? Boy, it's a wealth of information here today!


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Apr 13, 2015 13:54 |  #6437

Puckman wrote in post #17515693 (external link)
tough E mount? Boy, it's a wealth of information here today!

Something you don't need to bother with on the a7 II. The original a7 and a7R shipped with a two-part lens mount than included a plastic component that easily wore down with use - especially with heavy adapted lenses. Thankfully by the time they shipped the a7S Sony had switched over to an all-metal lens mount.


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Apr 13, 2015 13:57 |  #6438

Puckman wrote in post #17515690 (external link)
I saw last night that Sony dropped the price of the A7r by $400. Could that be the precursor to an A7rII announcement?

I'm also curious about that ND throttle (read about it yesterday). Wondering how well it works.

Been meaning to ask you, what's the OM 200? The Canon 200/2.8 was on my "want to try" list when I was in Canon world. That's on hold right now as I evaluate Sony. I'd be very curious to hear what your thoughts are on such a lens.
Any 200 is going to be big and heavy (relative to the smaller 35s, 55s and 40s out there). That's a given. To me, that's a lens that I don't necessarily want to carry every day in my kit, but that I will take with me on days where I know I may need that reach. So I don't feel the weight and size is a big deal. I'd put up with that, bascially, on a case by case basis. Ditto something like the Samyang 135 (also on my current wishlist).

well, the OM 200 is the exception. It's a 200mm that only weighs 380g. it's fairly small and compact for such a focal length (one of the main reasons for buying the lens). I am satisfied with the reach I'm getting, however, since the lens is fairly light, it shakes like mad, hard getting a steady shot, need 1/3FL for truly good results!

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optics wise, it's definitely not top tier, however it is very sharp and like most primes, decent. Hard to find a really poor performing prime (super wide aperture primes generally fit the bill). Telephoto primes usually are good to very good from my experience. Few pages back, I posted some abalone cove photos about high vs low tide..... those were 100% crops I believe, it's a sharp lens for sure. Contrast is on the lower side compared to my existing lenses.

Puckman wrote in post #17515693 (external link)
tough E mount? Boy, it's a wealth of information here today!

you dont have to worry about that, the A7ii has a metal mount, where the A7r has a partially plastic mount. After so many lens changes, my plastic mount wore down and was acting up. I was forced to buy an aftermarket metal mount!


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Apr 13, 2015 13:59 as a reply to  @ post 17515687 |  #6439

Thanks for that info Charlie - good stuff to know about before trying it out. I too have the Tough-E mount and have wondered how that may affect things. Regardless, it seems like something well-worth trying.


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Apr 13, 2015 15:17 |  #6440

But guys! Attention with the tough e mount!

First, i got problems removing all 4 screws on the A7R when i wanted to do the replacement. Stripped two of them and had to remove it in the sony service center. The guy was nice to not charge something to remove it. However i had to pay for new screws whih are about 10$ each!

Then i finally could do the replacement and found out that my commlite ef-nex adapter would not fit anymore on the A7R with the tough e mount...


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Apr 13, 2015 15:28 |  #6441

davidfarina wrote in post #17515809 (external link)
But guys! Attention with the tough e mount!

First, i got problems removing all 4 screws on the A7R when i wanted to do the replacement. Stripped two of them and had to remove it in the sony service center. The guy was nice to not charge something to remove it. However i had to pay for new screws whih are about 10$ each!

Then i finally could do the replacement and found out that my commlite ef-nex adapter would not fit anymore on the A7R with the tough e mount...

man, all that trouble you went through  :p

my fotga adapters stopped working as well. Fotasy and obviously fotodiox works (they made the e mount).

I had a spare wobbly mount I bought on accident..... that suddenly is tight and works fine :-P

so for now, I have had to stick with fotasy, which work. Viltrox ii also works (EF to NEX). I have proper screwdrivers, and removal was easy (learned from your mistake  :p). I am worried about my helicoid adapter, that's my last outstanding adapter. Going to try my adapters on my buddy's A7ii, in hopes of transitioning one day. Hope it works.


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Apr 13, 2015 15:39 |  #6442

Puckman wrote in post #17515490 (external link)
Thanks

Well, according to that video linked to above, they only "sort of" trigger flashes from the hotshoe (have to jiggle the trigger so some of the pins aren't making contact, apparently).

I do know for 100% for sure that I didn't have to wiggle the yn560ii and it triggered just fine I also tested them with a pro master sync cable for canon with the yn560ii and did not have to wiggle anything in fact it was nice and snug. Felt very solid both speed light and cable.


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Apr 13, 2015 16:00 |  #6443

Here's a shot with the A7II with a Tamron 24-70 2.8 Di lens (Sony A-Mount).

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Apr 13, 2015 16:22 |  #6444

Tjh1023 wrote in post #17515836 (external link)
I do know for 100% for sure that I didn't have to wiggle the yn560ii and it triggered just fine I also tested them with a pro master sync cable for canon with the yn560ii and did not have to wiggle anything in fact it was nice and snug. Felt very solid both speed light and cable.

Well I am very happy to hear that since I have 3 sets of YN triggers (2 sets of 603s and one set of 622s) as well as 2 YN speedlites (the 560III and the 568II).

This kind of story, along with the abovementioned talk of adapters being too snug and plastic mounts needing replacement and all that is what makes me dread jumping on the Sony system. In Canon world, everything worked. Plug and play.
I went ahead and ordered the A7II anyway, because I want to see what the fuss is all about, but Sony really needs to get their act together when it comes to compatibility and all these things starting to play with each other nicely.


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Apr 13, 2015 16:44 |  #6445

I've got a bone to pick with a few of you guys in here!! vmad Mainly the ones who either use or recommend the Voigtlander 40/1.4!!!

Basically. Thank you :)

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Apr 13, 2015 16:46 |  #6446

LeeRatters wrote in post #17515923 (external link)
I've got a bone to pick with a few of you guys in here!! vmad Mainly the ones who either use or recommend the Voigtlander 40/1.4!!!

Basically. Thank you :)

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I'm in love :love: :-)

Hehe yes it is my Goto lens for so many things!

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Apr 13, 2015 16:49 |  #6447

That has some nice pop to it (specially in the first shot). Very nice, Lee.

Which version of the lens do you have?


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Apr 13, 2015 16:53 |  #6448

Thanks both :) Nokton Classic MC - Most of that morning shots were one click from wide open - is that f/1.7 I presume - or f/2


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Apr 13, 2015 17:29 |  #6449

Ten Ounce wrote in post #17515868 (external link)
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Apr 13, 2015 17:37 |  #6450

Anyone here try the newly released Samyang 135/2 on the Sony yet? I'm debating adding that to my wishlist, moving forward. I have to wonder whether there's any reason to get the E mount version of something like that, vs. getting the Canon version (since I'm likely to already have an adapter and will probably still have the 6D for a while).
If I understand it correctly, these Samyangs for E mounts just have the adapter built into them, basically?


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