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7D MK 2 is it a Good Time?

 
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Apr 18, 2015 14:48 as a reply to  @ post 17522754 |  #46

Not brutal, just the way it is. At the respective prices so it should be!
The 7D2 is a compromise, but a dam good one, and at a price that many photographers can stretch to. If you want the best it costs but is it worth the extra? To most people it is not.
I can prattle on all day about how wonderful my 1DX is but is it really worth more than 2 or 3 other good bodies? Probably not - but it is nice.
If I didn't already have the glass then there is no way I would have entertained getting a 1DX, I would be more than happy to have the 7D2 or a 6D with good glass rather than the 1DX with average lenses.


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Apr 18, 2015 15:07 |  #47

Tried it today with my new 100-400L mk ii . Really pleased , way better than me at the moment .........
I enjoyed your views of "just get on and enjoy the camera."




  
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Apr 18, 2015 15:14 as a reply to  @ Dickster72's post |  #48

Glad you are happy! Don't worry, once you have got your camera set up the way you want you will be getting shots that you may not even have attempted before.


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Apr 18, 2015 18:50 |  #49

I shot two lacrosse games with 7DII/100-400II combo today. 306 images. TWO were bad out of focus, and they were my fault. About 10 are very good focus, but not perfect. The rest are dead-on perfect. I'm lovin this combo!


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Apr 18, 2015 20:50 |  #50

prime80 wrote in post #17522969 (external link)
I shot two lacrosse games with 7DII/100-400II combo today. 306 images. TWO were bad out of focus, and they were my fault. About 10 are very good focus, but not perfect. The rest are dead-on perfect. I'm lovin this combo!


What AF settings were you using?




  
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Apr 18, 2015 21:47 as a reply to  @ IlliniFan99's post |  #51

Stock settings with Case 4. I really haven't had time to delve into all of the AF settings yet.


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Apr 19, 2015 04:49 |  #52

sns85225 wrote in post #17522670 (external link)
I've run across the same thing. Apparently it requires Adobe Reader X or later. I downloaded the same guide from the Canon Europe site and it works fine with any pdf reader.

Here's the link: http://www.brochures.c​anon-europe.com …ctid=9090&langu​ageid=-111 (external link)

That did the trick, thank you!


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Apr 19, 2015 09:07 as a reply to  @ post 17522691 |  #53

So far there tends to be two primary responses to the 7D2 focus issues

1. User error, you don't know how to use the camera
2. Pixel density

For #1 I don't think it is unreasonable to take the camera out of the box and take, say, a picture of my car in the driveway and it should be sharp

#2 is more of a problem. If pixel density is causing what is perceived as soft focus then none of the new cameras from any vendor is worth buying. Head to eBay.

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Apr 19, 2015 10:12 as a reply to  @ prime80's post |  #54

What are you using for AI servo 1st and 2nd Image Priority I"m going to try both set to focus with Case 4 for track.
This was taken with Case 6 all other settings were default.


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5D MARK IV== 7D Mark II==7D == EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM == EF 100mm f/2.8LMacro==70-200mm f2.8L IS II USM == EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM UD == EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM==Speedlite 430 EX II PHOTO EDITING OK

  
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Apr 19, 2015 10:36 |  #55

Here's another settings article.
https://photographylif​e.com …canon-7d-mark-ii-settings (external link)



5D MARK IV== 7D Mark II==7D == EF 24-105mm f4L IS USM == EF 100mm f/2.8LMacro==70-200mm f2.8L IS II USM == EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM UD == EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM==Speedlite 430 EX II PHOTO EDITING OK

  
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Apr 19, 2015 12:12 |  #56

The 7D Mark II, is miles above the original 7D as far as all the features go. I suggest you get a copy of the 7D Mark II manual, and start to read it. Pay special attention to the focus section. Using all those focus points is a big difference, since all are active cross type points. Read the 1 Servo section too. The 7D Mark II is a really advanced camera, that requires some getting used to, if you've been only exposed to prior Canon cropped sensor cameras.


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Apr 19, 2015 13:40 |  #57

The above articulate is a great read , thanks jm45acp .:-)




  
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Apr 22, 2015 01:33 |  #58

wallstreetoneil wrote in post #17522691 (external link)
Here is my 2 cents on the 'focus' issues with the 7D2:

- the pixels on the 7D2's sensor are small so they will NEVER be able to achieve the 'same' Contrast that the 1Dx's larger pixels can achieve (maybe 10 years from now with new technology but NOT today comparing the current 1Dx with the 7D2) and thus given lower light situations and or lower contrast situations, the hit rate of the $6500 1Dx will be higher than the $1800 7D2

If you accept this one fact as FACT, you will no longer have issues with the 7D2 - sometimes the 7D2 will NOT be able to do what the 1Dx can do - i.e. fire off a sequence of 25 shots at 10fps at 10pm under stadium lighting, hockey lighting, even good lighting with poor contrast, and get a 90% hit rate and do it at 16000ISO and get semi useful pictures.

It can also be sometimes a less than perfect camera in what appears to be good conditions - you take 5 pictures at a 10fps rate and upon very close inspection they are ok but all are not tack tack sharp as you would expect - 3 are and 2 are ok - and you wonder why that is? to which there really isn't a perfect answer (but I come back to very small pixels)

Here is the thing however, it you get fast flash cards, strap on a 70-200 F2.8 II, 135 F2L, or 100-400 II, you can go to any sporting event on earth and produce pro quality images with an 85% hit rate after you practice with the camera and become one with the AF system - and find what works for you, the venue and the lighting.

If you have a FF sensor with 16 or 22 megapixels, your pixels are huge compared to the size of what is going on inside the 7D2 and thus the fact that it can achieve an 85% hit rate after you familiarize yourself with how to use it, do it at 10FPS, with a very quiet shutter that is beautifully dampened, has AUTO ISO with EC in Manual, has AF points across the entire face of the camera, can take 28-30 RAW images before filling the buffer, is completely weather sealed, has dual cards - add it all up for $1,800 and you can't beat it if that is the type of camera you need - you can get 4 of them for the price of a 1DX - or you can get a 7D2, a 135 F2L, a 70-200 F2.8 II, and a 100-400 II for almost the price of a 1Dx.


It will never, ever be a 1Dx - ever. It is however and awesome $1,800 sports and wildlife camera.


Thats pretty close to my experience. After using the Mk1 version for a few years, and becoming accustomed to what it had to offer, the learning curve was not as steep as I anticipated. Who said 85% hit rate. I wish, but then I tend to do mine at low light early in the day - and make whatever adjustments are required to suit the conditions made more difficult due to changing light conditions. I'm getting about 70%, far better than that with the 7D - about 55% - but then I am a bit fussy.
Incidentally, I found this thread very useful and informative, to get the experiences of others. Thank you.


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