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Wear camouflage to get closer to birds?

 
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Apr 30, 2015 12:30 |  #1

Just recently bought the sigma 150-600 mm Cont and I'm very happy with it.
I like to walk and photograph birds that I see.
My question of what your experience is in wearing camouflage jacket/pantshat in regards of getting closer to the birds.

What do you use?, and will it help me to get closer?

Thanks in advance.
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Apr 30, 2015 12:38 |  #2

I don't have a ton of experience with birds but for wildlife in general I've never found camo to be a benefit. I think one's approach has far more impact than clothing.


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Apr 30, 2015 14:05 |  #3

avdbrandt wrote in post #17538579 (external link)
Just recently bought the sigma 150-600 mm Cont and I'm very happy with it.
I like to walk and photograph birds that I see.
My question of what your experience is in wearing camouflage jacket/pantshat in regards of getting closer to the birds.

What do you use?, and will it help me to get closer?

Thanks in advance.
Antwan

Good question, will be interested to see the responses!

Usually my bird/wildlife photography is done while walking or biking for exercise, and I'm sure they are well aware of my presence before I spot them. Once I spot them, I try to keep as low profile as possible and take advantage of cover, if there is any. I have had some success even when dressed in my bright chartreuse cycling jacket. Oftentimes wildlife/birds pay little attention to the walkers and cyclists that pass by at a normal clip, but get nervous when someone stops to observe/photograph them.

On the other hand, if I am setting up in a spot and want as much advantage as possible, I will go all out and dress head to toe in camo, complete with face mask. The approach taken by duck or turkey hunters is probably relevant to our game as well. John


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Apr 30, 2015 14:18 |  #4

I agree that approach and sound is a larger factor, however clothing plays a part. I do not ever do the whole Camo thing, but there are certainly occasions where it would be a good choice, but more important is to just avoid bright colors and white.

All those dudes that have been wearing khaki and olive drab, earth tones etc, for over a century on safari, or in general as a nature photog, aren't just doing it to "look the part"

There's some good advice regarding approach and clothing in the Birding FAQ;
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=12952220


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Apr 30, 2015 14:34 |  #5

I've tried camo and it doesn't seem much better than nuetral earch tones. I have had much better success with a portable umbrella style hide. Get in the area, set up and wait for them to return.


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Apr 30, 2015 15:02 |  #6

Check out this from the set-up thread on here:

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=17518116


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Apr 30, 2015 16:13 |  #7

Camo will help if your approach is already decent; but, if you're moving fast, staying upright and making a lot of noise, the camo won't do much. I would definitely practice your stalking skills to begin with and worry about modifiers like that later


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Apr 30, 2015 16:22 |  #8

I would wear a camo jacket like some photographer here.

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Apr 30, 2015 16:24 |  #9

It appears to me that the ones in Camo aren't getting any better shots than the ones in Purple and bright orange! :)


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Apr 30, 2015 17:00 |  #10

All, thanks for your replies and links, this will help me to study this a bit more.

At this point I think it can help, but there are more factors you need to address to get it done.

As shown in the picture above, check your surroundings is one of them :-).


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Apr 30, 2015 17:11 |  #11

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17538872 (external link)
It appears to me that the ones in Camo aren't getting any better shots than the ones in Purple and bright orange! :)

I think you are right Jake he he.

avdbrandt wrote in post #17538906 (external link)
All, thanks for your replies and links, this will help me to study this a bit more.

At this point I think it can help, but there are more factors you need to address to get it done.

As shown in the picture above, check your surroundings is one of them :-).

Good point Avdbrandt. :)


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Apr 30, 2015 19:06 |  #12

I don't go the Camo route unless I am in a hide (either pop up or scrim netting blind) in which case the hide/blind is my Camo!
For most circumstances subdued colours (greens, browns etc) are quite adequate.
It is far more important to stay as still as possible, not wave around un-gloved hands, rapidly swing big lenses, bob up and down in excitement etc etc. When moving from site to site it is important to move smoothly and quietly and try not to let yourself be silhouetted. Nearly all the time your subjects will know exactly where you are, so long as you do not look like a threat they will generally ignore you but any sudden movement and they will be gone!


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Apr 30, 2015 23:17 |  #13

Heya,

I don't wear camo because it doesn't help me.

But it greatly depends on what and where you're shooting.

I shoot at the coast and shore line, where camo doesn't do anything for me. I look normal in khakis and a blur shirt there, or even white. Doesn't seem to matter. In this wide open terrain, we're obvious no matter what. I tend to get pretty close even then, simply because they're used to people in these areas where I am. But approach is everything here. If I walk fast, versus slow, if my camera is already raised, or if I approach and then raise it, etc, play bigger roles in the attention I get from the birds at the shore, than what I wear.

For every thing else, I just get there before the birds, and wait. Or I sit in a blind so that my movement and existence is masked. I find the blind works best over all.

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May 02, 2015 12:58 |  #14

I think camo helps a bit. I have a lightweight, long sleeve, dark green, turkey hunter's, camo shirt that is impregnated with "bug off", which I think is made from marigold pollen. Anyways, it helps with the birds and mosquitos. But earth tones are probably nearly as good. An old duck hunter once told me that the only color worse than white for spooking decoying ducks was BLUE! Way back when I first put a camo cover on my white lens hood, I did notice an improvement, fewer spooked birds. Of course, nothing helps if you are in a crowd of loud talkers wearing bright clothing. Most of my best images have been the result of solitary pursuit or accompanied only by my wife, who has an uncanny eye for spotting skulking birds. "Slow Hands" is another good rule for not spooking birds.


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May 02, 2015 23:34 |  #15

There's another factor involved here. Specialist camo clothing is often designed to be rustle-free, which can be important, especially for mammals.


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