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Buying a 70D - what to seek, what to avoid

 
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May 05, 2015 10:38 |  #31

fordmondeo wrote in post #17544427 (external link)
Here comes a personal opinion.

I had a 70D for two whole days and hated it.
Got a 6D three days later and have never been happier (with a camera).

That's not an opinion it's a series of events.


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May 05, 2015 10:40 |  #32

fordmondeo wrote in post #17544427 (external link)
Here comes a personal opinion.

I had a 70D for two whole days and hated it.
Got a 6D three days later and have never been happier (with a camera).

It is a perfectly valid personal opinion. Now, could you tell us what it is that you hated? I have had it for almost two years, and it is my primary camera for birding, as it is fast, very good IQ, gives me "reach", excellent AF, swivel back display, very good high ISO handling - everything that I need for that purpose.

For everything else I have the 6D.


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May 05, 2015 10:57 |  #33

Lbsimon wrote in post #17544407 (external link)
I would love to see a link to that hoax.

The 70D camera, as all Canon crop cameras, work with all Canon lenses and all third party lenses with the Canon mount. These lenses are as fast on the 70D as they would be on any other Canon camera.

I am honestly failing to find that forum I read it on :oops: But thank you for asuring me about that. It is a big amount of money for me, so I want to be 100% sure :-)




  
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May 05, 2015 11:00 |  #34

Lbsimon wrote in post #17544448 (external link)
It is a perfectly valid personal opinion. Now, could you tell us what it is that you hated? I have had it for almost two years, and it is my primary camera for birding, as it is fast, very good IQ, gives me "reach", excellent AF, swivel back display, very good high ISO handling - everything that I need for that purpose..

Thank you very much for that. I will be shooting planes, so it is basically iron birds, so I am happy to read you experience with 70D :)




  
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May 05, 2015 11:01 |  #35

fordmondeo wrote in post #17544427 (external link)
Here comes a personal opinion.

I had a 70D for two whole days and hated it.
Got a 6D three days later and have never been happier (with a camera).

Could you please write more?

6D is surely nice, but for my type of shooting, I need reach and I don´t have money for 6D and longer good telephoto.




  
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May 05, 2015 11:11 |  #36

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I bought my 70D last Spring, along with the new 10-18mm lens. It replaced my Nikon D600 and Sigma 12-24mm lens for my real estate photography. While it might sound funny that a full frame DSLR and widely-loved wide angle lens can be replaced by a crop sensor DSLR and a "cheapo" consumer zoom, it works for me and what I do because of the swiveling screen and the wi-fi. To get a good, undistorted image inside rooms the camera must often be equidistant from floor to ceiling, and you can either crouch down a bit or just use a tilt swivel LCD. I dislike sore knees. :) The wi-fi is great in that you can show clients the photos on a tablet quickly and easily.

I've go to say, thus far, I love the camera. The only drawback in my book is the flimsy control dial. It just feels cheap and fragile.

No focus issues here but haven't really tried to find them. I say buy it from a store you know you can return it to if you don't like it, like B&H or Adorama. Just be careful to keep all packaging and materials pristine.

I use my 70D for RE as well and I completely agree. I would love to eventually upgrade into a FF camera but I'm not sure that I can give up the swiveling LCD. It's made a world of difference for me!


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May 05, 2015 13:26 |  #37

Don't be afraid of a 70D. Except for the 7D/7D2, it has the best (viewfinder) autofocus in the Canon crop sensor lineup. Its "live" view AF is accurate and relatively fast (great for video), and the sensor is midway between the 7D and 7D2 in image quality. At the price, it's hard to beat - Canon Price Watch has a special today for $699 refurb, or slightly higher in a bundle.


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May 05, 2015 15:36 |  #38

GregDunn wrote in post #17544656 (external link)
Don't be afraid of a 70D. Except for the 7D/7D2, it has the best (viewfinder) autofocus in the Canon crop sensor lineup. Its "live" view AF is accurate and relatively fast (great for video), and the sensor is midway between the 7D and 7D2 in image quality. At the price, it's hard to beat - Canon Price Watch has a special today for $699 refurb, or slightly higher in a bundle.

+1 and pretty sure there is one right now (almost new, 1,300 clicks) for $750 or so.


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May 06, 2015 00:20 |  #39

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Could you please write more?

6D is surely nice, but for my type of shooting, I need reach and I don´t have money for 6D and longer good telephoto.

On paper, the 70D was an ideal camera for me.
I too wanted more reach from my lenses but "In My Opinion" the final image quality was shy of expectation.

I found even modest ISO levels, 400 to 800 displayed "In My Opinion" too much noise. I don't care much for noise reduction software as it reduces sharpness and acuity.
I should only have to think about noise reduction under the most extreme conditions. My 6D is clean in raw format to ISO 800 and perhaps further so I don't even think about it.
Brightly coloured and contrasting images with the 70D looked like they had been drawn by a child with a box of crayons and, whilst I am sure there are some very talented crayon artists out there, it's not the look I wanted.


I was also disappointed with the feel of the camera. Yes it was light and, to many people that's probably a bonus but, to me it just felt cheap. It also felt "cluttered" as if canon had just thrown every bit of tech it had into a confined space.
With or without a grip, it never balanced with a quality lens attached.

I have not ruled out the possibility that the one copy I had was defective but my initial experience was enough to stop me trying another.


Please note:

These are my opinions.
They are just opinions.
If you're a happy 70D owner then you can ignore my opinions.


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May 06, 2015 06:29 |  #40

fordmondeo wrote in post #17544427 (external link)
Here comes a personal opinion.

I had a 70D for two whole days and hated it.
Got a 6D three days later and have never been happier (with a camera).

I think it's a matter of what you want to shoot with it. the AF system on the 6D wouldn't work for me doing sports. I rented a 6D, 7D and the 70D before I bought my the 7D and the 70D got everything in focus where the 6D wasn't getting all my shots in focus. and the low 4.5fps wasn't impressive enough over my T3 that I ended up with the 70D and couldn't be happier. If the 6D drops enough in price when it's replacement comes out I'm sure I will pick one up since it's great for portraits and beats out the 70D in low light.


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May 06, 2015 06:32 |  #41

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Hello again,

I didn´t order 760D or 70D yet and recent news about 760D seems, that it has it´s issues also and to me, it looks like 70D is winning. But I have a question about 70D. Does it work with all Canon lenses? I saw somewhere, that it works only with STM lenses and with others, it is slower and not focusing properly. Is that true, or another internet hoax?

I am now back to the buying of 70D, because of faster focus, longer battery life and MFA with weather sealing. I want it to be good, but still a bit affraid of 70D.

I use my 10-22 USM and the 70-200 F4 L on my 70D all the time and the focus is quick and see no issues with them not being STM lensesI hardly ever use the 18-55 STM on it and I do use the 40mm STM on it and it doesn't seem to focus any quicker than the other two lenses mentioned.


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May 06, 2015 06:44 |  #42

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I think it's a matter of what you want to shoot with it. the AF system on the 6D wouldn't work for me doing sports. I rented a 6D, 7D and the 70D before I bought my the 7D and the 70D got everything in focus where the 6D wasn't getting all my shots in focus. and the low 4.5fps wasn't impressive enough over my T3 that I ended up with the 70D and couldn't be happier. If the 6D drops enough in price when it's replacement comes out I'm sure I will pick one up since it's great for portraits and beats out the 70D in low light.

All completely true.

I am a hobbyist but favour macro, landscapes and portraiture.
None of the above really need a high frame rate (in the main) but low light performance is a must.
I have the 70-200 2.8 V2 and the AF is blazingly fast on the 6D, the only niggle for me is the low density of focus points.


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May 06, 2015 10:47 |  #43

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On paper, the 70D was an ideal camera for me.
I too wanted more reach from my lenses but "In My Opinion" the final image quality was shy of expectation.

I found even modest ISO levels, 400 to 800 displayed "In My Opinion" too much noise. I don't care much for noise reduction software as it reduces sharpness and acuity.
...
Brightly coloured and contrasting images with the 70D looked like they had been drawn by a child with a box of crayons and, whilst I am sure there are some very talented crayon artists out there, it's not the look I wanted.
...

I have not ruled out the possibility that the one copy I had was defective but my initial experience was enough to stop me trying another.

I tend to think you really got a defective camera. Before I got the 70D I had the XSi (450D), T2i (550D), and 60D. The ISO handling of the 70D is better than any of these previous cameras. Of course the 6D beats it all, but that's a different story. I still use the 70D for birding - the reach, AF, FPS, plus a relatively light weight makes it almost ideal for that (if you do not plan to move to either the 7DII or the 5DIII with longer more expensive lenses).


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May 06, 2015 11:30 |  #44

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Well I shoot mainly the planes, which need fast focus. I know, that 70D is faster, but here comes the budget. Here the 70D is 1090 USD and 760D is around 750 USD. That is for me big difference and I am hesitating if the 70D is worth it. I don´t shoot videos, on 600D I did one. I want good battery life, as the 600D, and more focus points, because the 9 sometimes bothered me. I like the idea of MFA, but I don´t know, if it is worth 350 USD to upgrade.

If you are shooting planes, having a bigger buffer and more fps (7) on the 70D is a big plus.


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May 28, 2015 08:13 |  #45

I just joined the ranks of 70D owners, having upgraded from a Rebel 1000D I used for almost 7 years. Haven't had a chance to shoot much with it yet (just test shots around the house) but from what I already see its low light performance is a HUGE step up from what I had (The rebel XS maxed out at 1600, and only 800 was usable most of the time). Can't wait to try out Video mode, as my former camera came out right before the dSLR video revolution started.

Anyway, just wanted to chime in and say that I am getting a lot out of the thread. Great discussion so far!


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