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May 05, 2015 16:30 |  #1

In fine working order with every conceivable accessory made for it. Anyone know what this is...bonus points if you don't have to use Google  :p Can't wait to get this fired up later this week! :-)


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OK, ok...here's a (really obvious) hint. ;-)a


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May 05, 2015 16:38 |  #2

i've read about that i think. some guy invented a light painter gadget, right?

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May 05, 2015 16:49 |  #3

Interesting. High powered fibre optic directional lighting system?


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May 05, 2015 17:45 |  #4

Ding...ding...ding! We have a couple of winners :-)

Yes, fiberoptic light painting device. The hand held portion accepts a variety of modifiers shown...light wand, paddle, pin point devices, etc. Most of those devices have their own set of modifiers...grids, diffusion, gels, etc.

The large rectangular flat item is a electro-mechanical shutter device that's controlled via a push button at the hand end of the cale. Additionally is a filter (in this case diffusion) that can swing in and out, it's swing also controlled via a push button at the hand end.

The idea is to establish a base line exposure and then to 'paint' the rest of the scene, either with or without diffusion.

Created by Aaron Jones in the mid 80's it set the advertising world on fire as no one was able to determine how he was able to blend diffused, un-diffused saturated light with such precision. Remember this was well before photoshop layers. I've played around with these in the distant past but never owned a legitimate Hosemaster. Anxious to see if I can use it with my Canon during long exposures as my digital Leaf back is limited to 30 seconds.

Here's a couple of tests I did with a Hosemaster knock off called a Lightbrush (which I traded a Canon F-1 and a case full of lenses for about 1986). While the diffusion aspects are probably easily duplicated with Layers, the specific nature of the lighting would be difficult to duplicate imo.


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May 05, 2015 17:45 |  #5

A few more oldies.


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May 05, 2015 19:37 |  #6

I don't endorse anything pre 2011 :D


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May 05, 2015 20:20 |  #7

2011!

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May 05, 2015 23:40 |  #8

That is really cool.


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May 06, 2015 01:55 |  #9

I remember going to a workshop of commercial photographers in the late 80's and Dean Collins was there pitching something very similar.


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May 06, 2015 09:38 |  #10

What does an Aaron Jones Hosemaster go for these days?


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May 06, 2015 11:15 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #11

I've watched eBay auctions for a few years and they are all over the place...at least in terms of 'asking' price. Completed/sold listing are another story. It seems though that the general consensus would be in the $4-600 range. It also appears that the interest in them waxes and wanes as people (re)-discover the possibilities of working with them.

I was fortunate. A colleague who was retiring had this up for sale along with a ton of other studio equipment (some of which went back to the late 60's- a Salzman camera stand for instance). I didn't really need any additional stuff but he was on a time schedule to close down the studio so at the end of the day he threw this in to sweeten the pot on a speedo pack/head that I bought.


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May 06, 2015 12:06 |  #12

i'm going to try not to get aggravated that this thread derailed my productivity earlier this morning. I know it's my fault, or the fault of my genetic make-up, but i somehow still blame you, Foodguy, at least a little bit.  :p There's a chance now that i won't make my wednesday afternoon beer meeting with some favorite colleagues.

As i was reading about this thing, http://chaunceystudios​.com/?p=890 (external link) & http://richardwalkerim​ages.com/2014/07/ (external link) i couldn't help but think that with today's tech, it could be a fairly easy DIY or maybe even a cheaper, more glorified and functional than a DIY, commercial product. I'm not going to give away my ideas, but it is definitely something i am going to look into.

That's the best looking artichoke i think i've ever seen. Not exactly a vegetable that I'm guessing is easy to capture. I really love the small specular type light this thing gives (corn) yet is still even across the subject given a skilled hand. And the light coming through the bottles in the link above?!?! Awesome.

if you get a chance to show the results of the various light modifiers, please do.


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May 06, 2015 14:22 |  #13

Ha! Yet another rabbit hole on the web :p

I spent some time this morning fabricating the mini-boom that holds the shutter/filter assembly in front of the camera so it's all now complete and ready to go. I ought to be able to start playing around in the next week or so and should I get anything worth sharing I certainly will.

And you're right, there are a number of alternative tools and methods to accomplish the same thing. One issue that cropped up for me in the past was finding suitable fiber optic cable in any significant length. When my Lightbrush cable deteriorated, I ended up hacking something together from the landscape lighting industry. Not great, but that's what I used to shoot the artichoke.

In fact in it's day, there were a number of alternative ideas and units trying to capitalize on the concept. Sinar had a hand held pulsing strobe unit, there was the Lightbrush and a few people even sold devices that were modified dental fiber optic units.. The real advantage to the Hosemster is how well thought out and put together the package is. Looking over this, it's remarkable how well manufactured it is, right down to the smallest accessory. Aaron didn't appear to spare any expense as he was putting this together and no wonder the original list price on this unit and the accessories approaches $10,000...a significant sum in the mid to late 80's. (He later sold the company to Calumet who probably found themselves on the back end of the trend).

At the end of the day though, it's just another tool to make a photograph.;-)a


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May 07, 2015 19:16 |  #14

Ok..so with an hour to spare today (and with limited subject matter to choose from) I played around for an hour or so. Admittedly, it's a pretty lame photo, but this was more about getting a feel for the equipment and I'm satisfied for a first attempt. It's been a lot of years since I've done this so a lot of time was spent just thinking about the process. Side note, it took me quite a while figuring out how to set the Canon to 'B' :oops:

I shot tethered to LR. Everything worked pretty much as I suspected. A little surprised at the amount of time to process the file in a long exposure, reminded me of waiting on a Polaroid.:-P Noise at long exposure was better than I expected. I think this might have a place in the studio, more likely for test/portfolio work as duplicating results can be a little tricky, or I need to get better organized and take better notes about hose-times. As it was I kept track in my head and would often forget to count of seconds.

A big bonus though is the ability to easily affect white balance which iirc, was a little difficult in the analog film days...trying to balance the output of the lighting device to strobes took some filtration.

This will be fun to play with! :-)



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May 07, 2015 20:15 as a reply to  @ Foodguy's post |  #15

Wow!


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