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Apr 22, 2015 19:59 |  #1

What do the pros use for sports?

I've been shooting JPG for years mainly because of buffer size. But now that the 7D2 can handle a buffer of 31 RAW files (which is more than I generally need), I'm I better off switching to RAW files?

I'm shooting mainly Aussie Rules Football and cricket.




  
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Apr 22, 2015 20:53 |  #2

Markd102 wrote in post #17528623 (external link)
What do the pros use for sports?

I've been shooting JPG for years mainly because of buffer size. But now that the 7D2 can handle a buffer of 31 RAW files (which is more than I generally need), I'm I better off switching to RAW files?

I'm shooting mainly Aussie Rules Football and cricket.

Most sports shooters shoot JPG, simply because of time and volume, plus any wireless transfers of the files. For what the photos will be used for, they don't have to be of the utmost quality. I would shoot raw + jpg when doing portraits, weddings, etc, but JPG during my sports shoots.

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Apr 22, 2015 21:06 |  #3

I am not a pro but have done some editorial sports work on deadlines. I shoot everything in RAW. The pros that I do know, are split. Some shoot RAW, some shoot jpeg. No right or wrong on this. Boils down to what works best for you.


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Apr 22, 2015 22:27 |  #4

I was thinking RAW might give me more editing options for the low light stuff.
I wish our little country stadiums and fields were that well lit TS. Nice shots.

No wireless transfers happening here, so that's not an issue.

My main fears with the RAW files is storage.

The netball photo is indoors.
The football photo is under very dim, old fashioned yellow tungsten type flood lights.
Thankfully they don't play many night games, but the afternoons can get rather dull here in the winter, so I can be dealing with almost dusk type lighting.


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Apr 23, 2015 06:58 |  #5

I think if you have 100's or 1000's of photos to process, many would choose jpeg.

Not a pro, but I also shoot country footy and netball. In middle of winter, last quarter of the A's I was really struggling with my D300. ISO performance not great.
I now switch to my full frame camera with significantly better ISO performance (I just don't have quite the same reach for footy)
I probably shoot 1200 - 1500 photos on a Saturday - cull that to 500 - 700 "keepers" which I process on the Sunday - so for me its JPEG. It would just take too much time to go through that many RAW photos.

However, when I shoot basketball indoors, I do shoot RAW as we have a dungeon. I'm at f2.8, 1/320 - 1/640 and ISO 10000
The saviour here is that I don't shoot anywhere the same number of images and I don't have the same urgency for newspaper deadline so it's doable.

When this has come up before in other threads/forums many of the pros say they shoot JPEG due to time constraints.
One guy who has shot Olympics, Pan-Pacs for years and years says he only shoots JPEG.

Really nice to see some AFL on the forum. :-)


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Apr 23, 2015 16:22 |  #6

Not a pro but here's my .02

I shoot indoor sports like volleyball and basketball RAW because I can edit better and lighting is always an issue.

Outdoor I tend to shoot RAW unless I plan on taking a lot of shots, then I shoot JPEG.

Outdoor night shots like MX I shoot RAW for editing purposes as well

So I guess my preference is that it depends on the lighting and the amount of photos I plan to take...not much of an answer...sorry


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Apr 23, 2015 16:42 |  #7

Markd102 wrote in post #17528765 (external link)
I was thinking RAW might give me more editing options for the low light stuff.

This is an absolute fact, yes it will.

I wish our little country stadiums and fields were that well lit TS. Nice shots.

No wireless transfers happening here, so that's not an issue.

My main fears with the RAW files is storage.

This is also a real concern.

The netball photo is indoors.
The football photo is under very dim, old fashioned yellow tungsten type flood lights.
Thankfully they don't play many night games, but the afternoons can get rather dull here in the winter, so I can be dealing with almost dusk type lighting.

Sounds to me like you best bet is trying RAW for a while and see which side the compromise comes down on.

Most Canon RAW files (I assume this will still be true of the 7D2) Contain a fairly large embedded jpeg that can extracted in fractions of a second (ie, a batch would take minutes) so you don't even need to shoot RAW + jpeg to try it.

EDIT: I just checked, and the 7D2 it turns out will spit out a FULL RES 5472x3648 jpeg from the "RAW" file itself.


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Apr 23, 2015 17:53 |  #8

I shoot both and if there's a shot that's "money" but that could be improved then I'll improve it using the RAW file.Memory is cheap.


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Apr 28, 2015 15:49 |  #9

I have no time constraints so shoot RAW as well. The flexibility is just to much to pass up, in case it's needed.


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May 01, 2015 21:50 |  #10

I'm a sports photographer for a DivII school shooting ALL sports and only in RAW.
I probably average 400-600 per game. I use a 4tb external drive for permanent storage.


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May 04, 2015 20:06 |  #11

lauderdalems wrote in post #17540201 (external link)
I'm a sports photographer for a DivII school shooting ALL sports and only in RAW.
I probably average 400-600 per game. I use a 4tb external drive for permanent storage.

How do you back up the permanent storage?

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May 04, 2015 20:15 |  #12

I used to be a 100% RAW shooting then I tried jpegs and they make life so much easier.

These cameras can spit out jpegs just as good as light room. Then I edit them in Photoshop which is superior.

There are some times I do need to shoot raw but 99% of the time the jpeg is more than enough


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May 23, 2015 11:08 as a reply to  @ McNeese72's post |  #13

The school has a jpg copy and I have the raw copy. I usually have no request for anything after the season is over - except when Malcolm Butler had a chance in the Super Bowl. And that is why I always keep my raw files.


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May 24, 2015 20:03 |  #14

I always shoot in RAW. I like have the flexibility of not having to always hit the exposure. Also when shooting inside, and my Expo Disc doesn't always hit the perfect white balance, it gives me ability to adjust the photos easily. Also like the sharpening and noise reduction in Photo Shop.




  
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May 25, 2015 02:45 |  #15

I always shoot RAW for one simple reason... you can easily make a JPEG from a RAW you can never make a RAW from a JPEG.

If you decide you just want to output the images as JPEGs that is a simple job with Lightroom. Import them (applying your Sport development preset automatically) then select the ones you want and export as JPEGs. If however you need to edit some then you have the added flexibility and range of the RAW files.


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