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POLL: "Do You Get a Meal at the Wedding Job?"
Do you get a meal on your weddding job?
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Do you bring your own meal?
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Is the option of a meal in your contract?
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Jun 07, 2015 16:58 |  #31

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17587748 (external link)
Not people literally eating, the laughing, the banter, the smiles, the toasts, some of the best pics from my wedding were of people laughing during the meal. Maybe it's a UK thing buit I've never heard of photographers joining in with the meal? Isn't it like the vicar taking a break mid service for a sandwich?

Over here there tends to be three courses, often with speeches, toasts, etc around that time. Part of that is the main course, which is usually at least an hour. Once the guests have all been through the buffet or all been served most of them are just sitting there eating, that's when I eat.

The vicar isn't on their feet constantly moving for 10 hours, a better analogy would be to intermission at a cinema.


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Jun 07, 2015 17:10 |  #32

I don't photograph people eating. It's never flattering, I don't care who you are. When the guests eat, that's when I eat and take a break.


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Jun 07, 2015 17:21 |  #33

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17587835 (external link)
Other than paying for a photographer to take photo's of my wedding day, no, I have no experience whatsoever, and I can tell you now, him and his wife didn't stop all day, they were superb, top kit top people with great ideas, exactly what I was paying for. But then I did track down and pay for a good one, I suppose if I was paying peanuts for a low rent photographer, then I suppose beggars can't be choosers in that situation. I genuinely can't see how any pro photographer who cares about doing a good job would down tools during one of the main events??

As I already said there's usually an hour when people are mostly eating. I have often been sitting in the same room as the guests, camera nearby, and the number of times I see something worth getting up to photograph is very low. Given the main meal the time when the fewest photos happen, in my experience it's the best time to get something to eat. It's 10 - 15 minutes out of a 10 hour day.

When would you, with your extensive experience, suggest photographers stop to eat? Before the meal, when speeches and toasts happen? After the meal, when you often have dancing or cutting the cake? During the afternoon when the couple photos are taken?

Those of us with a decade of experience each all do much the same thing. Perhaps it's time for you to admit you know nothing about this and take a back seat in the conversation.


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Jun 07, 2015 17:22 |  #34

So your not a wedding photographer. Makes sense.

I have seen alot of £1500+ photographers have must provide a meal in the contract.

Providing a break time is UK law over a 4 hour shift. As a self employed vendor you can choose to ignore that, but a client cannot by law insist you work without breaks.

My GF's sisters vicar was invited to the reception and provided a sit down meal. So was the photographer and his assistant.

We are doing the same at our own wedding next August, we are in the UK, it's common decency to allow people who are working very hard the chance to eat.

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Jun 07, 2015 18:06 |  #35

I always require a meal. Part of the contract. I'm only generally sitting down to eat it for 10 mins max. Sometimes I'm seated with the guests and get the same courses... other times it a service providers main meal seated elsewhere. Frankly I don't care as long as I'm fed.

I shoot all through the meals. It isn't difficult to stay ahead of service or shoot the tables who have finished. There are always candids to be had. You don't shoot people eating you shoot those who haven't got their course yet or who have finished... it isn't difficult. Done it that way for years. Means I generally end up with good individual candids of every guest at the wedding.


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Jun 07, 2015 18:10 |  #36

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17587820 (external link)
I am genuinely hand on heart staggered that a pro wedding photographer would take a break during one of the main events? This can't be common surely??

A shame your name isn't Jon Snow... I'd have the perfect reply for you.


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Jun 07, 2015 18:16 |  #37

welshwizard1971 wrote in post #17587835 (external link)
Other than paying for a photographer to take photo's of my wedding day, no, I have no experience whatsoever

So perhaps you might listen to the 10 or so pros with perhaps a 100 years of experience between us who've already told you that its normal and expected to eat during a wedding for the vendors, which what the OP was asking. I dont get how you believe your point of view based on a single event should honestly be taken seriously.




  
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Jun 07, 2015 18:50 as a reply to  @ post 17587820 |  #38

Eating the main meal is not a critical period in the goings on. If something happens you need to get a photo of, you are certainly able to do so, seeing as how most weddings are planned out down to the minute. Everyone in this thread who does this for a living has basically said the same thing. I have NEVER shot a wedding where I wasn't offered a meal. A person needs a break and you can't expect them to be literally on their feet for 10 hours straight, without eating. If you can't abide a person a 15-minute break to eat a meal and have a seat during what is a lull in the action, you're in the minority. I've never had a bride or groom want photos of people eating or photos after mealtime when there are still dirty dishes on the tables, etc.


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Jun 07, 2015 18:57 |  #39

elrey2375 wrote in post #17587966 (external link)
or photos after mealtime when there are still dirty dishes on the tables, etc.

Shoot with a longer focal length (i.e. tighter) and you don't get the dirty plates in the shots ;)


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Jun 07, 2015 19:04 as a reply to  @ post 17587835 |  #40

Yesterday I shot for 17 hours straight. That's not the norm, but 12 hours is pretty common. A hungry photographer is a s#itty photographer. If there's an important speech during dinner, I'll put my fork down and snap a few photos.


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Jun 07, 2015 19:23 as a reply to  @ memoriesoftomorrow's post |  #41

I don't need pointers on how to shoot, but thanks. Perhaps it's different on your side of the world, but people don't like being photographed whilst trying to enjoy a meal.


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Jun 07, 2015 19:45 |  #42

For those that expect a meal, do you lower the price correspondingly? I can easily see a break time where the photog gets lunch, dinner, or just a break but still have a hard time forcing the bride/groom to shell out a couple hundred dollars more for photographers, musicians, DJs, whatever. It's like expecting the servers to be fed.


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Jun 07, 2015 19:55 |  #43

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For those that expect a meal, do you lower the price correspondingly? I can easily see a break time where the photog gets lunch, dinner, or just a break but still have a hard time forcing the bride/groom to shell out a couple hundred dollars more for photographers, musicians, DJs, whatever. It's like expecting the servers to be fed.

Yes. My price used to be $3047.26, but I estimated the average main meal (no dessert, entree, or alcohol) at 48.26 and reduced my price to $2999 accordingly... :rolleyes:


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Jun 07, 2015 20:00 |  #44

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For those that expect a meal, do you lower the price correspondingly?

No. The bride and groom feeding the likes of bands, DJs, videographers and photographers is a standard (normal) wedding expense.

If a couple wants any given service provider then the service provider sets the terms as to the contract and what is and is not to be paid for.


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Jun 07, 2015 20:50 |  #45

gjl711 wrote in post #17588020 (external link)
For those that expect a meal, do you lower the price correspondingly? I can easily see a break time where the photog gets lunch, dinner, or just a break but still have a hard time forcing the bride/groom to shell out a couple hundred dollars more for photographers, musicians, DJs, whatever. It's like expecting the servers to be fed.

But they are expected to be fed. In the server's place, the venue/caterer feeds them and that is part of their built-in overhead.

Honestly, this question has never come up to me before in the real world.

Really, what's the alternative? Should I bring in a cooler with a sandwich or order Pizza or Chinese food delivered? Do you think the venue will permit outside food to be brought in? Or should I leave the venue for 30 minutes or more to go to a diner? Do you think I should have to pay the inflated venue/caterer rate for a basic meal I won't be able to fully enjoy? Or are you willing to accept less than my best work because halfway through the reception I was weak, hungry and impatient?

Ask a hundred pro wedding photographers and I bet you 99 will tell you they always get fed; it goes without question. Even better, ask 100 wedding caterers if the photographer and band gets fed and I bet you the same result. Prior to shooting weddings I worked in my parents restaurant and served, cooked or managed dozens of weddings. The photographer (and band) always gets fed.


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