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Jun 08, 2015 21:42 |  #1

Let me begin by admitting that I am only a snapshot picture taker, not a "Photographer". I have a Canon 430EZ Speedlite that I bought when I was using an EOS 10S. It quit working 3-4 years before I moved to digital. I have had an EOS RebelXSi for about 3 years but just now thought that the old Speedlite might come in handy.

1. Will the 430EZ work with the RebelXSi?

2. If it will work, is it worth getting it repaired?

3. If so, where might I find someone to work on it?

I did a search online and found a service within driving distance. Is anyone familiar with Forest Camera Repair?

Sorry about the elementary nature of this post, but I didn't know where else to turn.

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Jun 08, 2015 22:17 |  #2

Almost anything can be repaired, the question is whether it's cost effective. In the case of your 430EZ, probably not.

Perhaps look at Yongnou flashes. They are very affordable and there are fairly faithful clones of Canon flashes.


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Jun 08, 2015 22:44 as a reply to  @ bumpintheroad's post |  #3

This is good advice. The Yongnou YN568 is a pretty good unit. I have one (and two all-manual 560iii's) and it works perfectly.


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Jun 08, 2015 22:49 |  #4

alamogunr wrote in post #17589628 (external link)
Let me begin by admitting that I am only a snapshot picture taker, not a "Photographer". I have a Canon 430EZ Speedlite that I bought when I was using an EOS 10S. It quit working 3-4 years before I moved to digital. I have had an EOS RebelXSi for about 3 years but just now thought that the old Speedlite might come in handy.

1. Will the 430EZ work with the RebelXSi?

2. If it will work, is it worth getting it repaired?

3. If so, where might I find someone to work on it?

I did a search online and found a service within driving distance. Is anyone familiar with Forest Camera Repair?

Sorry about the elementary nature of this post, but I didn't know where else to turn.

John
Tennessee

Heya,

My wife has an XSi, still kicking years and years later. Great camera still.

I put her on a Yongnuo 565EX II, for cheap. Bought it used for $70 on Ebay I think. You can get them for $100 new. You can also get the more feature rich 568EX II for the same price now. ETTL and HSS on that one, instead of just ETTL. $100 and they're great quality. I have a fleet of Yongnuo stuff these days, and not a single Canon flash.

As mentioned above, the repair cost of a flash is likely not worth it as new flashes cost so little these days.

Very best,


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Jun 09, 2015 06:23 |  #5

Thanks for the responses. Time for a few things to stop taking up space around here. I agree that the XSi is a great camera for the $$. I even bought mine as a refurb. I'll look into the Yongnuo.
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Jun 09, 2015 06:54 |  #6
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I am reasonably certain the 430EZ is a A-TTL/TTL flash, designed for OTF flash metering. If I am correct, this flash will only work on digital cameras in Manual mode. No auto-flash metering, no ETTL, no ETTL-II. Not very useful unless you are willing to do a lot of GN/Distance/Aperture calculations, in your head, on the fly.


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Jun 10, 2015 14:17 |  #7

If it is the 430EZ then what GeoKras says applies. Canon flashes that are digital compatible in ettl mode end with 'EX' (or RT now)

if it ends in 'EZ' then it is compatible with film era bodies and only a very few old digital ones.


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Jun 11, 2015 07:49 |  #8

Don't bother paying to repair the 430EZ. You can buy a used one that works for as little as $30. http://www.ebay.com …&_sop=15&_nkw=c​anon+430ez (external link)

As others have said, it is possible to use it with DSLR's but only in Manual mode.

Canon is pretty good at maintaining forward compatibility as some of the auto features of the 430EZ will still work with a DSLR:

1) flash head will zoom to match focal length
2) flash ready icon in viewfinder
3) flash coupling distance displayed on flash LCD
4) limits max sync speed to 1/250


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Jun 11, 2015 08:01 |  #9

ksbal wrote in post #17591738 (external link)
If it is the 430EZ then what GeoKras says applies. Canon flashes that are digital compatible in ettl mode end with 'EX' (or RT now)

if it ends in 'EZ' then it is compatible with film era bodies and only a very few old digital ones.


I had to look it up to be sure....

The EZ series flash are all ATTL and are not compatible for Auto flash with any of the Canon Digital SLR's as even the early ones were all ETTL. ATTL reads the flash exposure off the film plane so it makes sense that it couldn't be used.

Some of the last film cameras did have both ATTL and ETTL compatibility.


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msowsun wrote in post #17592694 (external link)
I had to look it up to be sure....

The EZ series flash are all ATTL and are not compatible for Auto flash with any of the Canon Digital SLR's as even the early ones were all ETTL. ATTL reads the flash exposure off the film plane so it makes sense that it couldn't be used.

Some of the last film cameras did have both ATTL and ETTL compatibility.

That is what I meant by: OTF.

I never heard of a body that does ATTL and ETTL. My current film body is an Elan 7 (for sale) does ATTL, but not ETTL. I used to have an Elan 7NE that did ETTL, but not ATTL. Do you know which bodies did both? I'm guessing maybe some the high-end stuff.


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GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17592707 (external link)
That is what I meant by: OTF.

I never heard of a body that does ATTL and ETTL. My current film body is an Elan 7 (for sale) does ATTL, but not ETTL. I used to have an Elan 7NE that did ETTL, but not ATTL. Do you know which bodies did both? I'm guessing maybe some the high-end stuff.

"PHOTO NOTES" says the Elan 7, EOS-3, and EOS-1V could all do both ATTL and ETTL http://photonotes.org …era4=eos33&came​ra5=eos30v (external link)


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msowsun wrote in post #17592710 (external link)
The EOS-3 and EOS-1V could do both ATTL and ETTL http://photonotes.org …a4=eos30v&camer​a5=eosdcs3 (external link)


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Thanks, Mike. I looked up that camera on Canoneos.com.

I found this funny (taken from Canon spec-sheet): Quick-return half mirror (Transmission: reflaction ratio of 37:63). No vignetting with EF 1200mm f/5.6 lens or a shorter lens. It begs the questions: Is there a longer lens? Does Canon think lots of EOS 3 users were buying this lens. And to keep this on-topic, which flash do you use with a 1200mm f/5.6 $100,000 lens?


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Jun 11, 2015 08:27 |  #13

I edited my post as according to "PHOTO NOTES", the Elan 7 could do both ATTL and ETTL


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msowsun wrote in post #17592728 (external link)
I edited my post as according to "PHOTO NOTES", the Elan 7 could do both ATTL and ETTL

I owe you ANOTHER one (beer?), Mike. I own the Elan 7 and did not know it could use ETTL! I have a PDF of the manual, and sure enough, it will use ETTL if an EX is mounted, and ATTL if an EZ is mounted. I've had the Elan 7 for some time; it came with a SunPak 5000AF (ATTL) flash. I've never even tried to mount an EX because I know the Elan 7NE was the first film body to use ETTL-II. I got that transposed in my brain to 'older cameras don't do ETTL'. DUH! Anyway, thanks again.

EDIT: I just spent a few minutes with my 430EX II mounted on the Elan 7. Works like a charm!


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