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Jun 10, 2015 20:28 |  #1

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Jun 10, 2015 20:45 |  #2

Impressive.


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Jun 12, 2015 22:22 |  #3

Yes it is impressive. I'm already listing my 5DIII and will be on the pre-order list. Also am thinking of getting the new Leica Q as my everyday walk around camera.


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Jun 12, 2015 23:01 |  #4

Still no ECF.:cry:


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Jun 13, 2015 08:25 |  #5

rrblint wrote in post #17594961 (external link)
Still no ECF.:cry:

Do you mean EFC shutter? It has that. And also has a fully electronic shutter like the a7S.


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Jun 13, 2015 10:08 |  #6

David Arbogast wrote in post #17595288 (external link)
Do you mean EFC shutter? It has that. And also has a fully electronic shutter like the a7S.

No David, I was referring to Eye Controlled Focus Point Selection. An old technology that some Canon film cameras had in the 1990s and early 2000s. This technology needs to be updated, improved and applied to digital cameras. It was a GREAT way to just look at what you want to be in focus and the camera would read where your eye was looking and instantaneously pick the correct focus point for you without your having to push any buttons, joy sticks, or turn any dials. We're now up to 65 focus points. Every new generation of new cameras has more, making it harder and harder to select the correct FP by hand. This technology is needed NOW as the next generation of new cameras may have hundreds of FPs.

YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE.

Be advised that for some reason, that I fail to understand, this technology is VERY controversial. There are many haters, some of which will follow me with this post.:twisted:


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Jun 13, 2015 10:37 |  #7

Are they saying this camera, with the right adapter, will allow me to AF with all of my current Canon and Nikon (AF) lenses? If that's true, and if the AF is fast enough then this could be my next camera.


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Jun 13, 2015 12:16 |  #8

Bob_A wrote in post #17595405 (external link)
Are they saying this camera, with the right adapter, will allow me to AF with all of my current Canon and Nikon (AF) lenses? If that's true, and if the AF is fast enough then this could be my next camera.

Bob, there are zero smart adapters for Nikon to Sony E mount. So, there will be zero AF capability with your Nikon lenses. Canon lenses, OTOH, are a different story. Early reports suggest excellent AF speed with full phase-detect support with Canon lenses. But, we need to see it. Who knows - maybe someone is blowing smoke. ;)


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Jun 13, 2015 12:35 |  #9

the a7 series has eye focus control with some lenses,its in the menu on my a7.it doesn't work with my lens i have but in the manual it states it will work with some a mount lenses


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Jun 14, 2015 14:39 |  #10

David Arbogast wrote in post #17595503 (external link)
Bob, there are zero smart adapters for Nikon to Sony E mount. So, there will be zero AF capability with your Nikon lenses. Canon lenses, OTOH, are a different story. Early reports suggest excellent AF speed with full phase-detect support with Canon lenses. But, we need to see it. Who knows - maybe someone is blowing smoke. ;)


It was just interesting to see the following in the Digital Trends article:

"Sony also says the AF system will work with third-party SLR lenses via adapters. This is a big deal for those with an extensive collection of Canon or Nikon lenses, as it allows those users to migrate over without losing the use of equipment in which they have invested heavily."

Sounded to me like there were going to be adapters for several other manufacturers that would allow full AF. I won't hold my breath.


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Jun 14, 2015 14:48 |  #11

genesimmons wrote in post #17595514 (external link)
the a7 series has eye focus control with some lenses,its in the menu on my a7.it doesn't work with my lens i have but in the manual it states it will work with some a mount lenses

While this is a really cool feature, especially if you like face detect mode, it's not eye controlled AF point selection that is being referred to in this thread. What was mentioned (ECF) is an old Canon technology where you look at the AF point in the viewfinder and the camera selects it. It avoids having to use a toggle or joystick to select the AF point.

Lots of people loved it. It didn't work for me at all though, possibly due to the thickness of my glasses (or coatings on the lenses).


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Jun 14, 2015 15:19 |  #12

Bob_A wrote in post #17596839 (external link)
It was just interesting to see the following in the Digital Trends article:

"Sony also says the AF system will work with third-party SLR lenses via adapters. This is a big deal for those with an extensive collection of Canon or Nikon lenses, as it allows those users to migrate over without losing the use of equipment in which they have invested heavily."

Sounded to me like there were going to be adapters for several other manufacturers that would allow full AF. I won't hold my breath.

I hadn't seen that. Would be great if there was a Nikon to E smart adapter. I was searching for this a few months back, but maybe something has developed - or is in development- since then.


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Jun 14, 2015 22:55 |  #13

David Arbogast wrote in post #17596867 (external link)
I hadn't seen that. Would be great if there was a Nikon to E smart adapter. I was searching for this a few months back, but maybe something has developed - or is in development- since then.

I have a feeling the writer of the article may have embellished a bit. :) It certainly would be great if it existed though, and would probably be a huge win for Sony as Nikon (like Canon) have been slow to launch a FF mirrorless camera with electronic viewfinder of their own.


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Jun 15, 2015 00:50 |  #14

I don't know why but of the 3 or 4 makers of smart adaptors, none have built one for AF of Nikon SWM lenses in the years that the E mount has been around. I don't see that changing unless Sony decides to get in that game.


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Jun 15, 2015 02:13 |  #15

I did read a while back that Canon still hold the patent to ECF
As to whether that's to just prevent others from using it or that they intend to reintroduce it, remains to be seen


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