Quite the camera, new to come Sony

http://www.digitaltren​ds.com …nys-a7r-ii-revolutionary/

Impressive.

Yes it is impressive. I'm already listing my 5DIII and will be on the pre-order list. Also am thinking of getting the new Leica Q as my everyday walk around camera.

Still no ECF.

rrblint wrote in post #17594961
Still no ECF.

Do you mean EFC shutter? It has that. And also has a fully electronic shutter like the a7S.

David Arbogast wrote in post #17595288
Do you mean EFC shutter? It has that. And also has a fully electronic shutter like the a7S.

No David, I was referring to Eye Controlled Focus Point Selection. An old technology that some Canon film cameras had in the 1990s and early 2000s. This technology needs to be updated, improved and applied to digital cameras. It was a GREAT way to just look at what you want to be in focus and the camera would read where your eye was looking and instantaneously pick the correct focus point for you without your having to push any buttons, joy sticks, or turn any dials. We're now up to 65 focus points. Every new generation of new cameras has more, making it harder and harder to select the correct FP by hand. This technology is needed NOW as the next generation of new cameras may have hundreds of FPs.

YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE.

Be advised that for some reason, that I fail to understand, this technology is VERY controversial. There are many haters, some of which will follow me with this post.

Are they saying this camera, with the right adapter, will allow me to AF with all of my current Canon and Nikon (AF) lenses? If that's true, and if the AF is fast enough then this could be my next camera.

Bob_A wrote in post #17595405
Are they saying this camera, with the right adapter, will allow me to AF with all of my current Canon and Nikon (AF) lenses? If that's true, and if the AF is fast enough then this could be my next camera.

Bob, there are zero smart adapters for Nikon to Sony E mount. So, there will be zero AF capability with your Nikon lenses. Canon lenses, OTOH, are a different story. Early reports suggest excellent AF speed with full phase-detect support with Canon lenses. But, we need to see it. Who knows - maybe someone is blowing smoke.

the a7 series has eye focus control with some lenses,its in the menu on my a7.it doesn't work with my lens i have but in the manual it states it will work with some a mount lenses

David Arbogast wrote in post #17595503
Bob, there are zero smart adapters for Nikon to Sony E mount. So, there will be zero AF capability with your Nikon lenses. Canon lenses, OTOH, are a different story. Early reports suggest excellent AF speed with full phase-detect support with Canon lenses. But, we need to see it. Who knows - maybe someone is blowing smoke.

It was just interesting to see the following in the Digital Trends article:

"Sony also says the AF system will work with third-party SLR lenses via adapters. This is a big deal for those with an extensive collection of Canon or Nikon lenses, as it allows those users to migrate over without losing the use of equipment in which they have invested heavily."

Sounded to me like there were going to be adapters for several other manufacturers that would allow full AF. I won't hold my breath.

genesimmons wrote in post #17595514
the a7 series has eye focus control with some lenses,its in the menu on my a7.it doesn't work with my lens i have but in the manual it states it will work with some a mount lenses

While this is a really cool feature, especially if you like face detect mode, it's not eye controlled AF point selection that is being referred to in this thread. What was mentioned (ECF) is an old Canon technology where you look at the AF point in the viewfinder and the camera selects it. It avoids having to use a toggle or joystick to select the AF point.

Lots of people loved it. It didn't work for me at all though, possibly due to the thickness of my glasses (or coatings on the lenses).

Bob_A wrote in post #17596839
It was just interesting to see the following in the Digital Trends article:

"Sony also says the AF system will work with third-party SLR lenses via adapters. This is a big deal for those with an extensive collection of Canon or Nikon lenses, as it allows those users to migrate over without losing the use of equipment in which they have invested heavily."

Sounded to me like there were going to be adapters for several other manufacturers that would allow full AF. I won't hold my breath.

I hadn't seen that. Would be great if there was a Nikon to E smart adapter. I was searching for this a few months back, but maybe something has developed - or is in development- since then.

David Arbogast wrote in post #17596867
I hadn't seen that. Would be great if there was a Nikon to E smart adapter. I was searching for this a few months back, but maybe something has developed - or is in development- since then.

I have a feeling the writer of the article may have embellished a bit. It certainly would be great if it existed though, and would probably be a huge win for Sony as Nikon (like Canon) have been slow to launch a FF mirrorless camera with electronic viewfinder of their own.

I don't know why but of the 3 or 4 makers of smart adaptors, none have built one for AF of Nikon SWM lenses in the years that the E mount has been around. I don't see that changing unless Sony decides to get in that game.

I did read a while back that Canon still hold the patent to ECF
As to whether that's to just prevent others from using it or that they intend to reintroduce it, remains to be seen