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5D mark III white balance problem

 
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Jun 05, 2015 14:43 |  #16

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Sample.

Please take note that the middle picture was the closest I ever got (not even close right?!) from adjusting the color temp from 2500 to 10,000. :cry:

oh i think i see now what you are trying to say/do.

If you take the picture of the child in DPP and set the white balance to "shot settings" this will assign the color temp you had in camera. If you then select "Color Temperature" you can see the number value set in kelvin. I don't use DPP but I opened it up and tested this. When I move from "Shot Settings" to "Color Temperature" the image retains the color value and displays the degrees kelvin that you had set in camera.

Of course the result is that the image is exactly the same as it was before, and you now know your degrees kelvin.


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Jun 05, 2015 15:30 |  #17

And, as often the case, Canon of Europe has worthwhile content at http://cpn.canon-europe.com …_balance/white_​balance.do (external link).




  
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Jun 08, 2015 05:11 as a reply to  @ post 17585085 |  #18

Thank you for the info. Those are the same pictures btw with different wb setting.


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Jun 08, 2015 05:13 as a reply to  @ post 17585255 |  #19

I use the DPP from Canon. For the white balance, it only gives me the color temp to adjust, no tint. I don't use my lightroom for raw because the program gets slower in my computer. I use the DPP mainly for batch processing.


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Jun 08, 2015 05:19 as a reply to  @ post 17585434 |  #20

I appreciate the info. I just don't understand the pics awb results cant have the same result when adjusting the color temp. I tried from 2500 gradually increasing to 10,000 kelvin. But it still has a yellow tint. This never happened to me in my 5DMII. So Im kinda confuse


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Jun 08, 2015 05:23 as a reply to  @ post 17585543 |  #21

I'm learning and playing the color temp when shooting rather than AWB. There are lots of time where AWB gives me a not so pleasing result. I've been shooting with color temp since I got my 5DmII, but when I got my 5DmIII, it gave me that yellow tint unless you put it in AWB.


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Jun 08, 2015 05:26 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #22

Yes. But my question is, how come the pic with AWB didn't had a single match from the pic with color temp? I gradually increase it from 2500 to 10,000 kelvin but no single picture came close.


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Jun 08, 2015 06:24 |  #23

So this is an example of what I did. I gradually increase the color temp with the increments of 200. The last pic has is 6500. This is just one pic. I still don't understand why I cant achieve the AWB look by just adjusting the color temp.

If you wanna try, please let me know and I can send you the raw file to play with.


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Jun 08, 2015 16:11 |  #24

Have you tried adjusting WB by use of the color wheel (Tune button) in DPP?

It works great for me, much better than the usual Temp & Tint tools found in most software.




  
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Jun 13, 2015 18:54 |  #25

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Jun 14, 2015 07:30 |  #26

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17585543 (external link)
On my screen, the first (left most image) looks to have very good color balance. It is the one labeled AWB. So... what is the problem?

Same on my monitor, especially considering its under Flourescent lights for all the reasons stated above - seems pretty reasonable.

Personally due to my limited skill , I avoid those lights like the plague!


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Jun 14, 2015 07:33 |  #27

litratista wrote in post #17588463 (external link)
I use the DPP from Canon. For the white balance, it only gives me the color temp to adjust, no tint. I don't use my lightroom for raw because the program gets slower in my computer. I use the DPP mainly for batch processing.

You can also tweak it in DPP 4 withthe curves / tint / saturation / etc.


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Jun 14, 2015 07:46 |  #28

AWB is always based on compound colors of surrounding artifacts. It's the WB for the sum of all colors.

Fluorescent tubes is quite a bad lighting source unless they are temperature rated for graphic works with anti flicker electronics.

Also, the green back ground -?.....you may want to test it with a grey one instead.




  
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Jun 15, 2015 22:53 |  #29

I don't know what is in DPP now, but it very much looks like the tint is incorrect on your posted pics.

No way can you generally match an AWB with just color temp. You have 3 colors to adjust and therefore 2 ratios (say green:blue and green:red), so you need two sliders or a point in 2 dimensions. Temp and tint is just one manifestation of these ratios.

I just looked at my old DPP version. It is unusual, but essentially has both temp and tint. There must be either a tint slider or like my DPP version, a color wheel type-thing to change the balance between the three colors.

And as stated with florescent lights, you may never be able to match two shots - but I understand that is not your issue here.


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