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Jun 09, 2015 21:03 as a reply to  @ post 17590842 |  #31

I never thought of that, just read about the Amazon ones being rebranded and thought I'd save on that. I just read that those are 2100 cycle!!! I just did the math and the difference at the end is $5 only. I'm getting the Eneloops then. Thanks!


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Jun 09, 2015 21:45 |  #32

Some are confusing the standard black AmazonBasics with the high capacity black AmazonBasics. I just copied this from the Amazon comments rather than rewrite everything:

amazon basics black vs amazon basics white

A: To clarify, there are three different versions of AmazonBasic rechargeable NiMH batteries:
- The original AmazonBasics batteries came in black wrappers. They are made in China and have the capacity rating of 2000mAh. They are NOT as good as Sanyo eneloop batteries.
[[ASIN:B0030T1NEA AmazonBasics AA NiMH Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries]]
- The second version of AmazonBasics batteries came in white wrappers. They are made in Japan and also have the capacity rating of 2000mAh. They are (according to me) rebranded 2nd-gen Sanyo eneloop, so you can expect at least 1500 cycles lifespan.
[[ASIN:B00CWNMV4G AmazonBasics Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries]]
- The third version is also black but called 'high-capacity'. They are (according to me) rebranded Sanyo XX. They are rated 2400mAh, but actual capacity is around 2550mAh, just like Sanyo XX. The rated lifespan of the XX is only 500 cycles.
[[ASIN:B00HZV9TGS AmazonBasics High-Capacity Pre-Charged Rechargeable Batteries]] see less
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Jun 10, 2015 07:50 as a reply to  @ Bearmann's post |  #33

What bearman said


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Jun 10, 2015 08:13 |  #34

I use Energizer Power Plus NiMH AA 2300 mAh that I purchased through Amazon.

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Jun 10, 2015 10:19 |  #35

Daniel.E wrote in post #17590855 (external link)
I never thought of that, just read about the Amazon ones being rebranded and thought I'd save on that. I just read that those are 2100 cycle!!! I just did the math and the difference at the end is $5 only. I'm getting the Eneloops then. Thanks!

I don't think the Amazon Basic are rebranded Eneloop. Looking at the specs the Amazon says they're good for 1000 charge cycles vs Eneloop is 2000. At least that's what I recall.


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Jun 10, 2015 10:26 as a reply to  @ bumpintheroad's post |  #36

While that is true, many have speculated that this is just under-rating it so that it doesn't cannibalize the eneloop sales.

This isn't uncommon when a MFG sells their product to be branded by a different company.


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Jun 10, 2015 11:48 |  #37

The batteries already look similar enough just calling it re-brand doesn't make it one, we are not talking about other item where outer physical appearance could give some sort of identification. The only things I can tell with similarity are the standard shape & size which all other brand do as well, and color. And for some reason Amazon Basic use similar coloring scheme as Eneloop. Other than the package color I'm willing to listen why you think it's a re-brand of Eneloop and not other manufacturer. And to be honest, isn't what make each brand different (eg: Eneloop vs PowerEX) are the stuff inside.




  
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Jun 10, 2015 12:09 |  #38

someone0 wrote in post #17591543 (external link)
The batteries already look similar enough just calling it re-brand doesn't make it one, we are not talking about other item where outer physical appearance could give some sort of identification. The only things I can tell with similarity are the standard shape & size which all other brand do as well, and color. And for some reason Amazon Basic use similar coloring scheme as Eneloop. Other than the package color I'm willing to listen why you think it's a re-brand of Eneloop and not other manufacturer. And to be honest, isn't what make each brand different (eg: Eneloop vs PowerEX) are the stuff inside.

If you see my previous post, you will see the name NLee the Engineer. He has been testing all the batteries and he is the one that first gave evidence to the fact that they are the same batteries. Practically everyone else is just quoting him. If you read his reviews at Amazon, he goes into some detail regarding the results of his testing and why he thinks that these are re-branded Eneloops.


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Jun 10, 2015 12:12 |  #39

By all means, get the eneloops instead. I have a mix of Eneloops, Eneloop XX, and these 2000 mah Amazon Basics. The Amazon basics are just as good IMO as the eneloops and my C9000 charger confirms they have the same capacity etc, after several recharges.


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Jun 11, 2015 16:16 |  #40

Heya,

I have Enloops & Amazon batteries. I mix and match. I use them in 4 different speedlites, and some of which are with battery packs, consuming 8~12 batteries per flash in some cases (4 in the flash, 8 in the battery pack, combined). I've been shooting one of them for a few days now, at full power, and still have not exhausted the battery pack setup. It's fantastic. I love not changing batteries mid shoot.

They recharge fast.

Can't go wrong with either, they're essentially the same. At this cost level, I wouldn't split hairs.

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Jun 12, 2015 08:01 |  #41

A few months after purchasing the Canon 600 EX-RT and ST-E3 -RT system in 2012, the need for a new way of thinking about batteries entered my thick skull.
Consulting one of my favorite books, Syl Arena's Speedliter's Handbook, a whole section is dedicated to something we might take for granted........batteri​es
Different types, what works the best, what does not. Rechargeable NiMH and the different types, and also what type of charger to charge them in.
So a few days later off I go into the "World of NiMH Batteries".
A local camera store stocked both Maha batteries and several of the Chargers.
So I took Syl's advice and bought the Maha 801C Battery charger. 8 individual battery outputs and 8 PowerEx MiMH batteries included. Also grabbed additional PowerEx Imedion Low Discharge NiMH batteries as well. The best of both worlds.
Over the last few years I have also purchased the White Eneloop LD NiMH batteries as well.


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Jun 22, 2015 20:57 |  #42

I use powerex. More power than eneloops.




  
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Jun 22, 2015 21:11 |  #43

Another Eneloop user here.


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Jun 22, 2015 21:55 |  #44

Eneloops are the way to go. Just as quick in recycling as my Duracells were and the charge lasts a long time. No regrets.


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Jun 23, 2015 05:34 |  #45

someone0 wrote in post #17590842 (external link)
I have 16 bank charger also and 2 other 4 bank chargers. That read each cell charge seperately. Still, considering the price of amazon basic, why not wait for sale and get the Eneloop for just a few dollars more per 4 or 8 cells?

What is this 16 bay charger? How fast does it charge? Can you add batteries while others are charging?

I just use the Energizer AA quick charger setup for my camera and audio gear. They are available locally, seem to hold up great, and charge in 15 minutes. When they get old, I use them for flashlight batteries or for kids toys. They seem to last over a year. Interested in the Eneloops.


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