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Jun 21, 2015 14:58 |  #1

I'm thinking of making a youtube product demo video using my 5D II. I was thinking of picking up a corded lavalier microphone. I don't have any continuous lighting sources except household ceiling lights and lamps. I'll be using Vista 64 Premium Home Edition for several more months. It includes movie maker software. I also have CS6 and the Canon DPP software.

1) Will I need additional continuous lighting? If so, what's cheap and will get the job done?

2) If I place the camera on a tripod, will it be difficult to control the focus. I'll be showing close up details of the product as well as wide view shots.

3) Do I need additional software? I won't be making movies often. I just want the video to be acceptable in quality, not award winning. Then again, I don't want to pull my hair out using software that is difficult to use or not user friendly.


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Jun 22, 2015 09:03 |  #2

If you shoot the video during the day in an environment with lots of windows and natural light, then you will probably not need additional lighting. For a regular room with only residential artificial lights, it will not look like a pro video without additional lights for the person talking.

It is not hard to control focus on the camera on a tripod when you manually focus the shot and then turn off focus on the lens to keep it from changing. The camera does not autofocus smoothly or quickly- manual focus is best. Perhaps you can film the demo once at full wide angle and then do the close up and other shots in a separate take.

Only you can test and discover if the software you picked is right for you. Almost all video editors use more professional tools.


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Jun 22, 2015 10:05 as a reply to  @ sspellman's post |  #3

Thanks for your help, sspelman. I assume there are many who began with no prior experience like myself. Regarding the software, I know there are many who have been there, done that. I would like to use the software that I already have or can obtain for free, but if it's not practical, I would consider a small investment in something like Adobe Premier Elements or similar. I'm also trying to gauge the difficulty and the workload of the endeavor. If it's substantial, I may abandon the whole thing.


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Jun 22, 2015 11:00 |  #4

I use Serif's Movie Plus X6 for editing, they have a freeby edition which I think is based on X5 which I used previously (not much different from X6)
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Jun 23, 2015 12:04 as a reply to  @ artyman's post |  #5

Thanks artyman. I appreciate the suggestion.


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Jun 24, 2015 09:07 |  #6

I tried to download Serif and it just gave me some bloatware. no actual editing program. I downloaded, but haven't tried it, Davinci Resolve Lite by Blackmagic design: https://www.blackmagic​design.com …rt/family/davin​ci-resolve (external link). There is a link on the bottom part of that screen for Resolve LITE, which is FREE!


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Jun 24, 2015 11:10 |  #7

Bearmann wrote in post #17605527 (external link)
I'm thinking of making a youtube product demo video using my 5D II. I was thinking of picking up a corded lavalier microphone. I don't have any continuous lighting sources except household ceiling lights and lamps. I'll be using Vista 64 Premium Home Edition for several more months. It includes movie maker software. I also have CS6 and the Canon DPP software.

If you have CS6, does that include Adobe Premiere Pro?


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Jun 24, 2015 11:32 |  #8

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If you have CS6, does that include Adobe Premiere Pro?

No, to my knowledge, it doesn't include any specific movie processing software. I wasn't sure if ACR or CS6 allowed you to do anything with movies.


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Jun 24, 2015 11:45 as a reply to  @ Bearmann's post |  #9

Well if you are looking for free then you can try Lightworks, it is quite different from most of the editing applications out there but they have tutorials on their website to help you get started.

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Jun 24, 2015 14:25 |  #10

premiere pro is not part of the photoshop program. You can get it off the cloud, if you have the higher priced subscription offering, or $20 a month individually.


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Jun 24, 2015 14:41 |  #11

hawk911 wrote in post #17609313 (external link)
premiere pro is not part of the photoshop program. You can get it off the cloud, if you have the higher priced subscription offering, or $20 a month individually.

Yes it became apparent that the OP was referring to Photoshop CS6 and not an actual suite of products.

Not sure what Adobe was thinking when they decided to version their products based on the suite they were releasing at the time.

But it's okay now that everything is Creative Cloud..! -?


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Jun 24, 2015 15:18 as a reply to  @ joeblack2022's post |  #12

they do the same thing with Elements- Premiere (video) and photoshop (images) are versioned the same.


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Aug 02, 2015 16:22 |  #13

Tripod shooting for a product should be quite easy, I am on a Mac and the included iMovie application is enough for videos like what you describe. I would think you would be able to do all you are asking with just the 5D and the MovieMaker program you have. The audio would probably be the main weakness but might be fine in a controlled environment. I would think any decent microphone would produce good enough quality for your use but I haven't used one myself. I took a video at a wedding with my 6D, just sat it on a table, got focus and exposure, and the audio wasn't terrible with all the background noise that was present. The video was of the first dance with music playing from DJ speakers about ten feet away and people all around. I would just test what you have and see how that works before you buy anything.


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Sep 20, 2015 13:06 |  #14

I use Corel 8. I pulled my hair out with Sony VEGAS.


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Sep 21, 2015 17:12 |  #15

My thoughts would be...

1. Not really. Positioning subjects (or objects) well and using windows maybe even together with lamps to add atmosphere can look great. I often film stuff on our glass kitchen table which is right next to a large window. If you only have internal lights, try to use tungsten and not CFL (energy saver) bulbs for a far more natural and pleasing look.

2. It always takes some attention but don't worry too much if you need to adjust it a bit. As long as the adjustments are not harsh and quick, you probably won't even notice the small changes when you watch it back.

3. Premiere Elements is great but I know a lot of people have already made better suggestions on the software.

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