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Jun 24, 2015 10:02 |  #7201

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And the photography budget for those other industries, for the most part FAR exceeds that for RE photography...Those industries know that good photography cannot generally be accomplished in an hour or less...

I believe we would all love to have hours to shoot (and style) every property to make it as appealing as possible, but its not going to happen for all but the very high end market. There just isn't enough money for that in a majority of RE shoots. So compromises have to be made...how much depends on the photographer, and/or the agents demands/needs...

Keep in mind what RE makes on sales of homes, they definitely have the budget, they just dont want to spend it, big difference.


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Jun 24, 2015 10:32 |  #7202

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Curious... How long does it take you (typically) to shoot a home? I used to be into exposure blending, but I became much happier when I moved to multiple flashes.

1 - 1.5 hours on site with about 2 hours (or a little more) in post. Far too much of the time in post is spent waiting instead of working. Batch processing helps but LR's HDR merge has no batch processing and I never felt I got good results from LR Enfuse's batch processing so it's one at a time.

I light some with flash but I seem to always prefer what I can get with natural light and I rather enjoy post.


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Jun 24, 2015 10:39 |  #7203

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Keep in mind what RE makes on sales of homes, they definitely have the budget, they just dont want to spend it, big difference.

Yes, but the "Average" realtor doesn't make as much as we think, not after splitting with the other agent, and with the brokerage taking it's cut (as much as 70% for new agents)

As far as NOT wanting to spend the money...you are preaching to the choir...:-(

But, how many are willing to pay us (and a stylist) to spend a couple or more hours on a $250,000 home...that's the average sale price in my area...


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Jun 24, 2015 12:07 |  #7204

From yesterday in Sonoma, CA. God I love wine country.



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Jun 24, 2015 15:27 |  #7205

[QUOTE=cccc;17609190]F​rom yesterday in Sonoma, CA. God I love wine country.

cccc ... those look more over exposed, than that front view I posted yesterday, which you told me to drop exposure 1/2 to full stop.

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Jun 24, 2015 18:15 as a reply to  @ lacogada's post |  #7206

What he's done here is more like high-key, so you want the rooms to be bright to be nice and appealing.

Your house was overexposed, so you lose details in the textures, and the colors become washed out. Also your grass is electric green, so watch out for saturated colors. He has maintained all of the important info, the colors look good, and it's OK that the walls are bright, as there's no important information that we're missing there, these interiors came out very nicely.




  
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Jun 24, 2015 18:15 |  #7207

Nice work everyone!

Here are some different neighborhoods in SF, hope you enjoy

Twin Peaks, San Francisco

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Lake St District, San Francisco
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Jun 24, 2015 18:16 |  #7208

some more

Pacific Heights, San Francisco

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Russian Hill, San Francisco
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Bernal Heights, San Francisco
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Jun 24, 2015 18:29 |  #7209

PECE Photo wrote in post #17608582 (external link)
And what we are trying to do is make things look as appealing as possible. Go into any industry... Fashion, food, cars, any one, and what do you see? Amazing pictures that make products look as appealing as possible. Why in the world would anybody think the pictures of a house being sold would be any different?

First of all, not every car, fashion, food, or other shoot has a huge budget either. Every industry has low budget jobs. These folks don't understand what goes into a really great image, but they also don't need to. Many people know what they can and can't take with their iPhone, and when they hit that limit, they call in the pros for the best price.

The point for these is to get a photo that's good enough, and just a bit better than what anybody could be taking with an iPhone or point and shoot.

You're looking at this issue from the wrong angle, realtors ask themselves, "What is the least amount that I need to spend to get people in the door for showings?" This is the sole purpose for real estate photos, so if you can accomplish this by spending $150 for pretty decent photos, you really don't need to spend hundreds more to get perfection. Sure many of them can probably afford it, but it's simply not needed save for the top 1% of listings.




  
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Jun 24, 2015 18:31 as a reply to  @ jiddle's post |  #7210

These look great! Watch out for flash glare on the cabinets, as seen in the spiral staircase/kitchen image, but otherwise these are very clean and bright, lovely work.




  
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Jun 24, 2015 19:53 |  #7211

mltn wrote in post #17609587 (external link)
What he's done here is more like high-key, so you want the rooms to be bright to be nice and appealing.

Your house was overexposed, so you lose details in the textures, and the colors become washed out. Also your grass is electric green, so watch out for saturated colors. He has maintained all of the important info, the colors look good, and it's OK that the walls are bright, as there's no important information that we're missing there, these interiors came out very nicely.

Thanks for the explanation mltn.

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Jun 24, 2015 21:11 as a reply to  @ lacogada's post |  #7212

None taken, for your reference, here is an exterior shot from the same home.

The sky was difficult to deal with here. This image is a little dramatic, but I like the feeling it conveys.



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Jun 25, 2015 11:15 |  #7213

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1 - 1.5 hours on site with about 2 hours (or a little more) in post. Far too much of the time in post is spent waiting instead of working. Batch processing helps but LR's HDR merge has no batch processing and I never felt I got good results from LR Enfuse's batch processing so it's one at a time.

I light some with flash but I seem to always prefer what I can get with natural light and I rather enjoy post.

You can do a batch process in LR HDR merge. (Somewhat close to batch). If you have all your brackets in stacks, you can select the stack and press CTRL+Shift+H to do more than one a time.
I may be wrong on the key stroke, but I was watching multiple HDR creations working at once.


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Jun 25, 2015 11:31 |  #7214

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You can do a batch process in LR HDR merge. (Somewhat close to batch). If you have all your brackets in stacks, you can select the stack and press CTRL+Shift+H to do more than one a time.
I may be wrong on the key stroke, but I was watching multiple HDR creations working at once.


CTRL+Shift+H is indeed the keyboard command for HDR merge and CTRL+H is the command to review the preview before merging. You can't do them at one time but you can string them together in pretty close order if your machine has enough RAM - mine has 24Gb and will handle several at once. So while it's not a true batch, it is faster. If you want to see the preview, that will also slow you down but if you can pick the brackets you need and do the merge without a preview it goes faster. I just did three while typing this response.

I do think you need more RAM to do several merges at the same time. When I first installed LR 6 I had only 8Gb of RAM (plenty for LR 5) and LR 6 slowed me down a bit. I didn't even try to merge more than one set. But, since moving up to 24Gb, I'm flying along and nicely. The max on this machine is 32Gb but I have to throw away 8Gb and add 16Gb to get there so I think I'll be content with 24Gb for now. I'm putting in an SSD soon and I expect that will also speed thing s along nicely.

BTW, I think the faster workflow for me - since I rarely use all 7 brackets - is to choose the frames, do the merge and then come back afterwards and stack all 7 just for reference and to keep things a bit tidier.


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Jun 25, 2015 11:42 |  #7215

rgs wrote in post #17610276 (external link)
CTRL+Shift+H is indeed the keyboard command for HDR merge and CTRL+H is the command to review the preview before merging. You can't do them at one time but you can string them together in pretty close order if your machine has enough RAM - mine has 24Gb and will handle several at once. So while it's not a true batch, it is faster. If you want to see the preview, that will also slow you down but if you can pick the brackets you need and do the merge without a preview it goes faster. I just did three while typing this response.

I do think you need more RAM to do several merges at the same time. When I first installed LR 6 I had only 8Gb of RAM (plenty for LR 5) and LR 6 slowed me down a bit. I didn't even try to merge more than one set. But, since moving up to 24Gb, I'm flying along and nicely. The max on this machine is 32Gb but I have to throw away 8Gb and add 16Gb to get there so I think I'll be content with 24Gb for now. I'm putting in an SSD soon and I expect that will also speed thing s along nicely.

BTW, I think the faster workflow for me - since I rarely use all 7 brackets - is to choose the frames, do the merge and then come back afterwards and stack all 7 just for reference and to keep things a bit tidier.

I think I understand you. It's not technically a batch mode. But if I organize 5 different stacks, I can click the first one and start merging it, then go to the second one and start it, etc. So you'll have the merge process running on more than 1 stack at a time.
I found it does slow things down, nearly taking a minute do finish a batch and slowing down the computer. My laptop has 8GB or memory and LR HDR merge has slowed this computer down before for using nearly all the memory up.


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