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EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Review WOW!

 
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Jun 25, 2015 12:48 |  #1456

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17609457 (external link)
Lensrentals.com has reported what you say above, based on some serious measuring equipment. SO I can't argue the facts.

I do believe the old zoom had far more copy variation. I have shot with sharp copies and soft copies. We've seen very few (if any?) reports of the new zoom being a "soft copy"

Subjectively, I felt that the new zoom was the equal of the old prime, and really beat the old zoom.

I go back and look at the old zoom images I have, they were all stopped down a bit as i tend to shoot it , and it was very good.
The new lens is just better, and does not require as much stopping down (better wide open) and works very well with a 1.4x TC. The old version was bad with a TC.

The biggest advantages of the new vs. old are all described in the first post of this thread, that is AF speed and accuracy (keeper rate will go up) and much better IS.

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Jun 26, 2015 01:36 |  #1457

Pondrader that web is testament to this lens if ever I saw one.
CDS, that schizoid background is unsettling. Honestly I try to look at the bokeh but most times don't notce, that one even a blind man could see. I've seen something close only once doing astro processing and using Topaz and really trying to aggressively kill some deep space noise.
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Jun 26, 2015 04:47 |  #1458

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17610983 (external link)
Pondrader that web is testament to this lens if ever I saw one.
CDS, that schizoid background is unsettling. Honestly I try to look at the bokeh but most times don't notce, that one even a blind man could see. I've seen something close only once doing astro processing and using Topaz and really trying to aggressively kill some deep space noise.
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Nice pic.

And now we have a term for that 100-400V2 characteristic - schizoid background! :-)


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Jun 26, 2015 07:09 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #1459

Ha ,..I see you were out risking life and limb to get that shot lol,...I have no problem with the back grounds I'm getting with the 100-400LII, I don't know what or how that is happening ?? I do hope they get it figured out before it really does have a name.

I too was putting it all on the line shooting this little guy and the big Bad Wolf came crashing in !!


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Jun 26, 2015 07:11 as a reply to  @ Choderboy's post |  #1460

lol I think that name can be used for a lot of things Dave !! lol


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Jun 26, 2015 07:34 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #1461

Medicineman I could not agree more, This lens is smokin, Im trying to find a wide image of the pond just to show the distance.

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Here is an image standing on shore using the 24-70mm at 24mm ,..the trees in the centre at the very back are the tree the heron is landing in


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Jun 26, 2015 09:27 |  #1462

^well that pic def. shows the perspective and reach of the 100-400ii.
Nice 'bad wolf' too :)
Yeah I really think that schizoid bokeh is a pp anomaly.


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Jun 26, 2015 09:32 |  #1463

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #17611271 (external link)
^well that pic def. shows the perspective and reach of the 100-400ii.
Nice 'bad wolf' too :)
Yeah I really think that schizoid bokeh is a pp anomaly.

You can think that, but it was shown in an unprocessed pic, so it's not.

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Jun 26, 2015 09:37 |  #1464

It is hard to explain, but there are all kinds of levels of processing, in and out of camera


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Jun 26, 2015 09:48 |  #1465

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It is hard to explain, but there are all kinds of levels of processing, in and out of camera

Well, that is true...

To my eye there is slight ghosting going on in the out-of-focus grass in the left hand side of your fox picture.


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Jun 26, 2015 09:53 |  #1466

Male phalarope, with noticeable but IMO not objectionable ghosting in the background


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Jun 26, 2015 10:06 |  #1467

and I don't see that in the full image,..that image your looking at is shrunk to a small file for posting. it was not taken for any purpose or for evaluating the quality of the images taken,..it was a quick edit to make conversation. I don't have a problem with any back ground I have taken with the 100-400LII


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Jun 26, 2015 10:29 |  #1468

Pondrader wrote in post #17611280 (external link)
It is hard to explain, but there are all kinds of levels of processing, in and out of camera

Sure... but in that case, you'd need to use an optical test bench like LR does to say either way, if you want to get technical. And without that, you have no evidence for your assertion that it's the fault of processing. Which, if it were true, I'd expect to be present regardless of lens.


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Jun 26, 2015 13:36 |  #1469

I'd not see the original until now Archibald. Honestly I've not shot that much with mine. I'll have to go back for a look see.
This is becoming very interesting.
Choder glad you like the phrasology, not every day I come up with a 'term'; would prefer another one as in this is not good it's happening with this lens.
Think Canon would posit a position on how/why if a raw was sent to them?


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Jun 26, 2015 14:31 as a reply to  @ LonelyBoy's post |  #1470

I think you miss read meaning,...Im saying I don't have a problem with my back grounds, how when and where Archibald did or didn't... I can not reason,...Jake said Ian Murray had a similar back ground...he uses a 1Dx and a 500mm f4 so I'm not intending to try and reason it out. I'm showing only what I can do and have done and have found. I don't think my back grounds look any different the Im use to see. and this lens is really loved by thousands of very good photographers. The only complaint I have is with the amount of dirt I am accumulating.


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