The quadra killer AKA Cheetahstand CL-600

fotopaul wrote in post #17626966
you can get it serviced or rent it in most parts of the world.

hardly.

I live and work in "The Triad" region of NC, we have a ton of furniture designers and manufacturers, and subsequently, a ton of large studios, there are ZERO camera stores, much less a place to get things serviced or rent. We are not "small town, USA", as an example of the scope of the photography that goes on here: http://www.kreber.com/​#studios In Charlotte and Raleigh there are a couple of camera stores but both of those towns are 1 - 1.5 hours away.

"most of the world" is not NYC and LA, SF and Chicago. There are many more pros working outside areas that have high levels of support, than there are inside those areas.

not saying that there aren't lots of folks who are tied into certain brands of lighting, but just as people have always been able to jump brands of cameras, they can also jump lighting brands.

or for that matter run multiple brands depending on what they need for that particular shoot.

fotopaul wrote in post #17626966
That's the thing with brands like Profoto, you can get it serviced or rent it in most parts of the world. Elinchrom is big in Europe so service is not an issue. Personally i'v built up a good relationship with local retailers over the years so i don't really have to worry about service time as i either get loaners or can rent.

I own and use a lot of Elinchrom on a daily basis, in the bigger rental studios i work in i occasionally shoot with their profoto packs.

My point is that professionals choose name brands like profoto, broncolor and Elinchrom for their ecosystem and service. Saving on the initial cost of acquiring the gear is irrelevant for most in comparison to durability, service, compatibility.

In addition the ELB 400 is yet another animal and is showing where Elincchrom is headed along with their ELC HD PRO compacts.

I am a professionals and I use Cheetahstand Gear.
I sent my one of quadra packs in and it was not cheap to get it fixed and I waited 2 months to get it back. I dont have a a rental place near me and nor does some other photographers and for the cost of the repair I could have bought a new CL-600 or CL-360. I can have a replacement in less then a few days with cheetahstand.

I can blow rings around the quadra kits both the A/S with this pack and it keeps up just fine with my profoto gear at a price point that wont leave you eating roman noddles for months. It would be nice if the profoto triggers were as low priced as the cl-txp.

Again your going on names I have or had elinchrom broncolor and profoto strobes. Light is light not matter what brand you use. Since your a sceptic like I was until you own one and use it you will never know how it is.

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17626995
hardly.

I live and work in "The Triad" region of NC, we have a ton of furniture designers and manufacturers, and subsequently, a ton of large studios, there are ZERO camera stores, much less a place to get things serviced or rent. We are not "small town, USA", as an example of the scope of the photography that goes on here: http://www.kreber.com/​#studios In Charlotte and Raleigh there are a couple of camera stores but both of those towns are 1 - 1.5 hours away.

"most of the world" is not NYC and LA, SF and Chicago. There are many more pros working outside areas that have high levels of support, than there are inside those areas.

not saying that there aren't lots of folks who are tied into certain brands of lighting, but just as people have always been able to jump brands of cameras, they can also jump lighting brands.

or for that matter run multiple brands depending on what they need for that particular shoot.

So in comparison how how does the godox stand ?

In most major cities (which facilitates studios/rental shops) in the world you can either get profoto serviced or rent, name a brand that is more available ?

Most of the world isn't the US either... even though many seem to think so.

Sure they can jump brand, but again the reason for doing so is rarely savings on initial cost.

I mean i could get the B2, but it would make little sense as the system i primarily shoot with has an a equivalent product.

Again in terms of the market the Quadra is aimed towards the godox is not a killer, it's an alternative at a attractive price sure.

fotopaul wrote in post #17627012
So in comparison how how does the godox stand ?

In most major cities (which facilitates studios/rental shops) in the world you can either get profoto serviced or rent, name a brand that is more available ?

Most of the world isn't the US either... even though many seem to think so.

Sure they can jump brand, but again the reason for doing so is rarely savings on initial cost.

I mean i could get the B2, but it would make little sense as the system i primarily shoot with has an a equivalent product.

Again in terms of the market the Quadra is aimed towards the godox is not a killer, it's an alternative at a attractive price sure.

You have a right to your own option, but again until you own one everything your saying is just smoke brother.
You get 2 troll points

abbadon31 wrote in post #17627015
You have a right to your own option, but again until you own one everything your saying is just smoke brother.

Yes everyone has an opinon, that's usually how it goes.

Let me know when you have the figures that proves the Godox killing the Quadra. Because that was my point..

I have no interest in owning the Godox, as i have enough batterypacks.

Funny enough the Nordic Elinchrom agent also carries Godox stuff...

Hard to take the "killing" part literally when the godox is just barely on the market, and the thread was started a LONG time before it was shipping at all.

figure of speech: 1. a word or phrase used in a nonliteral sense to add rhetorical force to a spoken or written passage.

if you look through the thread i think you will see that abbadon31 lists the strengths and weaknesses of all the products in question.

fotopaul wrote in post #17627025
Yes everyone has an opinon, that's usually how it goes.

Let me know when you have the figures that proves the Godox killing the Quadra. Because that was my point..

I have no interest in owning the Godox, as i have enough batterypacks.

Funny enough the Nordic Elinchrom agent also carries Godox stuff...

If you read the whole thread I did prove it in a video. It had faster recycle times, better on camera triggering system, more power, no special bracket $, and less cost.

abbadon31 wrote in post #17627032
If you read the whole thread I did prove it in a video. It had faster recycle times, better on camera triggering system, more power, and less cost.

Yes you proved that it's a better fit for you, enjoy it!

As for the troll point, well i'm may not be the stranger you think i am.

Take care!

fotopaul wrote in post #17627054
Yes you proved that it's a better fit for you, enjoy it!

As for the troll point, well i'm may not be the stranger you think i am.

Take care!

Well again you have a right to your own option, but it would be better if have expedience with a items before posting. Since you have none all your post are hot air to me.

Well i said i have no intention of owning them, that doesn't mean i haven't tried them does it ?

They are available in Europe as well you know, i would go so far as to say they are easier to get here then in the US...

Again you find it a better fit for you then the Quadra nice.

I simply don't see "600ws" as a real benefit, if i need more i just move to a bigger batterypack. Recycling time, well with a new battery on the hybrid not such much, and with the ELB 400 certainly not. Triggering, skyport works just fine for most in Europe it seems, so the triggering and the option to control it by iphone and a laptop is now a luxury i would rather not live without.

fotopaul wrote in post #17627095
Well i said i have no intention of owning them, that doesn't mean i haven't tried them does it ?

They are available in Europe as well you know, i would go so far as to say they are easier to get here then in the US...

Again you find it a better fit for you then the Quadra nice.

I simply don't see "600ws" as a real benefit, if i need more i just move to a bigger batterypack. Recycling time, well with a new battery on the hybrid not such much, and with the ELB 400 certainly not. Triggering, skyport works just fine for most in Europe it seems, so the triggering and the option to control it by iphone and a laptop is now a luxury i would rather not live without.

Then why even post
Seams to be your just trolling to cause drama.

abbadon31 wrote in post #17627100
Then why even post
Seams to be your just trolling to cause drama.

Why even post my opinion regarding the unit not being a quadra killer ?

Well i guess because it's a forum where one shares opinions.

No drama here, just opinions.

Take care!

fotopaul wrote in post #17627102
Why even post my opinion regarding the unit not being a quadra killer ?

Well i guess because it's a forum where one shares opinions.

No drama here, just opinions.

Take care!

Why even post if you don't own either one and say the Quadra is better.

abbadon31 wrote in post #17627103
Why even post if you don't own either one and say the Quadra is better.

My bad, by "them" i meant the Godox units. I own and used the Quadra series extensively since it first was launched.

fotopaul wrote in post #17627106
My bad, by "them" i meant the Godox units. I own and used the Quadra series extensively since it first was launched.

All I hear is BLAH BLAH BLAH