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Jul 10, 2015 12:37 |  #1

Hi everyone,

I almost pulled the trigger for a 50mm 1.2 before reading some rumors about the mk. II coming out later this year. Does anyone know anything about this. I tried searching google and all i can find are rumors. Release date later this year or early 2016. When does Canon usually release their lenses?

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Jul 10, 2015 15:27 |  #2

FLiPxJB wrote in post #17627074 (external link)
Hi everyone,

.... When does Canon usually release their lenses?

Thanks,
JB

Just after you've bought the previous version :(

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Jul 10, 2015 17:39 |  #3

I believe announcements are about a month away. Idk what new gear they're going to announce though.


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Jul 10, 2015 17:42 |  #4

Canon Bob wrote in post #17627260 (external link)
Just after you've bought the previous version :(

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Well said. ;-)a


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Jul 11, 2015 04:56 |  #5

They just put out a 50mm 1.8 STM, I highly doubt they will upgrade the 1.2 that quick. Rumors say the new lens is a 35L upgrade.


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Jul 11, 2015 06:40 |  #6

The 50mm f/1.2L gets a bad press, unfairly so really. It's a unique lens which produces images quite unlike anything else I've used. Is it as sharp as the 85mm f1.2L wide open? No, but there isn't a huge amount of difference and only if you pixel peep. It's still surprisingly sharp in the centre wide open which is where it matters most because who needs it sharp to the edge at maximum aperture? You're trying to isolate your subject most of the time I would have thought? No ultra fast lens is sharp at the edges/corner wide open anyway, just some are slightly better than others. Use it above f/2.0 and is very sharp across the frame and by f/2.8 it's as sharp as anything else out there. If I was in your position I would buy it with out worrying about a rumoured replacement. My money's on a 35mm f/1.4 Mark II being announced in the near future.


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Jul 11, 2015 08:45 |  #7

What Sir_Loin says.


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Jul 12, 2015 08:40 |  #8

Rumors are about the 35L II some time in April 2016. My dollars are excited! :-D


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Jul 12, 2015 08:43 |  #9

But that's not 50mm, let alone the 50L.


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Jul 12, 2015 09:59 |  #10

windpig wrote in post #17628770 (external link)
But that's not 50mm, let alone the 50L.

I don't know about any rumor of an April 2016 release date for a 35L II, but it is relevant insofar as there is good information that next month Canon will announce two new lenses and one new camera. Between the 50L and the 35L--if the revision of one is to be released prior to the other--IMO the 35L is due, because it's in greater need of a revamp.

I think the 50L will have a shorter life cycle than the typical lens with a revision maybe around 2016 or 2017 (i.e., a 9 to 10 year cycle). My reason for thinking that is because, from a sales and marketing standpoint, IMO a revised 50L should precede or be released simultaneously with a revised EF 50 f/1.4.


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Jul 13, 2015 14:21 |  #11

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IMO a revised 50L should precede or be released simultaneously with a revised EF 50 f/1.4.

They are both in serious need of updates. The 50/1.4 is really long in the tooth and now finds itself competing with Canon's own latest 50/1.8 STM which closed the gap a bit as compared to the 50/1.8 II with the addition of more (and rounded) blades. And while the 50/1.2 holds onto its widest aperture advantage, this lens too has serious competition now from Sigma's 50mm f/1.4 Art lens; Sigma really upped their game with the Global Vision line, and have both Canon and Nikon playing catch up.


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Jul 13, 2015 17:27 |  #12

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They are both in serious need of updates. The 50/1.4 is really long in the tooth and now finds itself competing with Canon's own latest 50/1.8 STM which closed the gap a bit as compared to the 50/1.8 II with the addition of more (and rounded) blades. And while the 50/1.2 holds onto its widest aperture advantage, this lens too has serious competition now from Sigma's 50mm f/1.4 Art lens; Sigma really upped their game with the Global Vision line, and have both Canon and Nikon playing catch up.

I disagree that the need to revise the 50L is "serious." In that extracted quote, I was really just hinting at the point that there are two kinds of 50L buyers: (i) the ones that want or need f/1.2, and (ii) the ones who don't need f/1.2 but cannot live with the shortcomings of the current EF 50 f/1.4. Of course, a portion of the latter group go the way of the 50 Art. It's common knowledge that we're way beyond the point of needing a new EF 50 1.4. So, assuming a new intermediate 50 is around the corner, Canon might steal back some Sigma shooters with a successful revision, but it will, no doubt, also do so at the expense of some 50L sales. Therefore, I think Canon should revise the intermediate and luxury 50mm lenses in short order of one another.


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Jul 13, 2015 21:37 |  #13

this thread may help you:
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1133642

it's from 3 years ago...the person is pretty much asking the same thing as you...bottom line in my opinion is, if you wait for rumors to actually become true, you're missing out on a lot of shots...if something is announced, it's still a couple months away usually...buy what's available now, waiting will just cost you missed opportunities


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Jul 13, 2015 22:28 |  #14

DreDaze wrote in post #17630676 (external link)
if you wait for rumors to actually become true, you're missing out on a lot of shots...if something is announced, it's still a couple months away usually...

Agreed. And one advantage to buying Canon L glass is the excellent resale value. The 50mm f/1.2L could even appreciate to above current new price if the replacement is anything short of across-the-board superior, just look at the used prices for the 50mm f/1.0L...


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Jul 13, 2015 23:14 |  #15

I see nothing wrong with my 50L f1.2 MK I  :p

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I can understand buyers remorse, but whether they release an MK II tomorrow or next year, or never;
it doesn't change the quality of my 50L on bit.

If you want a f1.2 50mm prime, get it. Many come and go on the FS thread for less than retail.
Try it, and if you don't like it sell for what you paid after you use it.

The 50L was the last lens I bought back in April 2014 and it is easily my most used lens.
Even though I have had my 24L II almost twice as long.

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