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Jul 21, 2015 15:09 |  #1

I'm shooting a concert in low light this week, i do have a 5d3 but my only wide option is a 24-105l f4. Can i push the iso to cover only having a F4?

anyone have any good examples with that lens and the 5d3 from a low light venue?


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Jul 21, 2015 17:12 |  #2

Are we talking a concert in a arena or a concert in a dimly lit club? I've shot upwards of ISO 8000 at some shows with the 5d3 so unless you are in pitch black, you should be ok with f4.




  
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Jul 21, 2015 17:28 |  #3

Any idea about the light? I have shot in theater with that combination, had to push to the limit. Pushable to ISO 6400 / 1/30 for slow moving objects. Very few keepers. ssstill looking for examples.




  
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Jul 21, 2015 17:47 |  #4

As other say, a lot depends on the concert, and how they light the stage.

Not the best shot by a long way (I was sat as an audience member) and I'm no concert tog, but shows that with your newer 5D3 you'll certainly be able to get shots.


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Jul 21, 2015 18:06 |  #5

I've shot a lot of live music, and I would never show up without a fast prime I could rely on. I'm not saying that the 24-105 won't work, but I wouldn't want to risk it without knowing the lighting in advance. F/2.8 is usually fast enough, but even that isn't a sure bet. What other glass do you have? With a 5d3 I'll push my ISO up as high as 25,600 if I have to, and sometimes that's at f/1.4 and a slow shutter speed.

You're going to have to define "low light". ;-)a

I will say that 50mm is usually the widest I'll go for shows. I don't care for anything wider unless I'm really close. Good luck with it.


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Jul 21, 2015 19:15 |  #6

I also shoot a lot of live music. Shoot in smaller club venues, theaters, large bars, arenas, stadium and outdoor shows. Always shoot with my 5d mklll and sometimes my 7d1.
Almost everything is shot with the 24-105 f4 L, 70-300 f4-5.6 L and 17-40 f4 L. Usually keep my ISO anywhere between 2500-12,000 for night or indoor shows, but have gone to 20,000 if necessary. It allows for me to properly expose the shot which keeps the noise down.


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Jul 22, 2015 17:41 |  #7

Found example shot during musical performance iso 6400. Venue was low-0light, but the performer was in spotlight.


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Jun 04, 2016 00:29 as a reply to  @ hennie's post |  #8

I don't have a 5d3, but I recon you could push to 3200 with no probs?


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Jun 13, 2016 06:34 |  #9

Perhaps consider renting some faster glass for the shoot?




  
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The Heavy. night concert outside with minimal lighting.
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1/125 f4 200mm iso 25600

depends on the lighting at venue, i've shot in clubs that are almost as dark as caves and venues with beautiful white even lighting. it just takes practice, lots of practice. be careful of proper focus, don't fear high iso's, shoot like a demon until you get used to low light situations, the more you shoot the more you will learn. until you are comfortable with the environment, run & gun as fast as you can, as you get experience, you can be more selective. the more frames you have to look at the more you will see your mistakes and successes. and always shoot raw!!! i've shot many concerts with a 40d and a 28-135 kits lens. and still gotten georgus images. with the 24-105l on a 5dmkiii, you will get some great keepers and alot of trash. just keep shooting....

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Jul 27, 2016 23:32 |  #11

I've shot concerts since the early 70s...when color went no higher than ASA (ISO) 800.

When shutter speeds go slow, remember that you're shooting music which has a predictable beat--meaning musicians will have predictable pauses with the beat. The pauses are fairly easy to anticipate, if you can get with the beat.




  
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Jul 30, 2016 08:34 as a reply to  @ RDKirk's post |  #12

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Jul 31, 2016 11:13 |  #13

What a night! Thornton Winery featured David Sanborn & Dave Koz "Side By Side"


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Aug 09, 2016 19:58 |  #14

My wife''s Led Zep tribute band with 6D 24-70 f4L at ISO 10000. I shot it with that lens and the 70-300L in really crappy light. And they came out reasonably well.....the band loved them.

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The Heavy. night concert outside with minimal lighting.
canon 6d w/ sigma 70-200 2.8 (non-IS)
1/125 f4 200mm iso 25600

depends on the lighting at venue, i've shot in clubs that are almost as dark as caves and venues with beautiful white even lighting. it just takes practice, lots of practice. be careful of proper focus, don't fear high iso's, shoot like a demon until you get used to low light situations, the more you shoot the more you will learn. until you are comfortable with the environment, run & gun as fast as you can, as you get experience, you can be more selective. the more frames you have to look at the more you will see your mistakes and successes. and always shoot raw!!! i've shot many concerts with a 40d and a 28-135 kits lens. and still gotten georgus images. with the 24-105l on a 5dmkiii, you will get some great keepers and alot of trash. just keep shooting....


Amen. What he said. I am still learning.....and I also shot concerts on film where ISO 800 was the max!! Now my 6D is the bomb!!!!


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