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Jul 28, 2015 22:34 |  #1

I'm thinking of getting the Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Standard Zoom Lens for Canon DSLR Cameras (I have a Canon Rebel T5i)

I'm somewhat new to photography in that I'm still using mostly default / auto settings... but I'd like to get a nice "general use" lens or what some might call a good "all around" lens.

I noticed the Canon EF-S 18-200mm has a bunch of good review on Amazon, so is that the general consensus for this lens among the resident experts here?

Also, Amazon has it listed for $699.00 with free shipping in what they are calling "White Box Bulk Packaging"... so is this a good price for this lens?

If not, and suggestions on a better place to purchase from?


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Jul 28, 2015 22:39 |  #2

Actually, I just found this same lens for $419 at
https://www.42photo.co​m …abilizer-lens-72mm-/14696 (external link)

So, I guess I need to shop a bit before purchasing


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Jul 29, 2015 07:05 |  #3

What lens or lenses do you have now?

Generally, these "super zoom" lenses are a compromise in image quality and performance over using multiple lenses to cover the similar focal ranges. They are meant for situations where you need a broad focal range, but where it will be difficult to change lenses.

A two lens solution of EF-S 18-55mm IS STM and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM would give you better overall performance than the EF-S 18-200mm. One of the main features of a DSLR is the ability to change lenses to meet different photographic needs.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:05 |  #4

For a general purpose walk around lens, take a look at the 18-55 IS STM and the 18-135mm IS STM lenses.

I agree with Scott M in that the 18-200mm lens is a compromise between image quality and flexibility. In other words, such a big focal range causes a decrease in image quality.

What do you intend to take pictures of? That is the most important question in selecting any lens.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:06 |  #5

Currently I have the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens that came with my camera kit, and I also have the EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM lens which works pretty good but is gigantic!

I was hoping the Canon EF-S 18-200mm could be a good middle of the road lens so to speak.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:12 |  #6

DoughnutPhoto wrote in post #17648516 (external link)
What do you intend to take pictures of? That is the most important question in selecting any lens.

LoL... that's like a car salesman asking "where all do you intend to be driving this car?"

To be honest, this is a hobby I'm getting in to since I enjoy taking pictures and then tinkering with them on my computer to make them look as nice as possible... so there's no tellin what I'm going to be taking pictures of. Best answer is all kinds of stuff.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:31 |  #7

I found the Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 Image Stabilizer USM Lens (72mm) Full Frame which may be a better walking around lens since I probably won't need to take pics of things far away so much.

But, what does "Full Frame" mean in the description?


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Jul 29, 2015 08:39 |  #8

Rockrz wrote in post #17648540 (external link)
I found the Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 Image Stabilizer USM Lens (72mm) Full Frame which may be a better walking around lens since I probably won't need to take pics of things far away so much.

But, what does "Full Frame" mean in the description?

That means it will work on a full frame camera (like a 5D) while a crop camera has a smaller sensor (like your T5i). That's why your 24-105L is "gigantic"; it takes a bigger lens (usually) to work on a FF camera, and it doesn't help on a crop camera like yours. The 28-135 will also be much bigger and heavier than you need, and is an old design with less-effective IS.

Let me second the recommendation for the 18-135 STM; it's a great lens, much newer and better than the 18-200 or 28-135, and if you miss the longer end you can get the 55-250 STM for less total than the 18-200 (if you shop around and buy used, at least) and have a bigger range and better quality.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:44 |  #9

Rockrz wrote in post #17648540 (external link)
I found the Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 Image Stabilizer USM Lens (72mm) Full Frame which may be a better walking around lens since I probably won't need to take pics of things far away so much.

But, what does "Full Frame" mean in the description?

The EF-S 18-135mm STM is a better lens than the EF 28-135 USM. I consider it to be the best general lens for a crop camera like your T5i.

Your T5i is a "Crop Camera" which has a image sensor about 1.6x smaller than a "Full Frame" camera. EF-S lenses are designed to fill the image sensor of crop cameras but will not work with full frame cameras.


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Jul 29, 2015 08:50 |  #10

OK, but I'm not seeing the EF-S 18-135mm available with USM.

Am I just not finding it yet?


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Jul 29, 2015 09:19 |  #11

What Mike (msowsun) said. The 18-135 is an STM not a USM, but don't let it stop you. In terms of optical quality, it is the sweet spot of zooms for crop cameras.

The 18-200 is an excellent lens. The people that pontificate about super zooms never owned one, it's against their religious beliefs. It is a superzoom, it must be evil and nasty.

I own one. Together with my 60D and the Sigma 8-16 it is my lightweight travel kit. As you can see in my signature, I own the EF 24-70L MkII and the EF 70-200L MkII. In comparison, the EFS 18-200 loses to both of them (nothing remarkable, it costs 1/3 of each in terms of MSRP), BUT it doesn't lose by much! I took it to Europe last month (Vienna, Bratislava, Prague) rather than the 5D3+EF24-70 MkII + EF 70-200 MkII. Much kinder to my back and not as much of a loss if it gets stolen.

It is a sharp lens, quick to focus (not as quick as the Mark II brothers, but not a nifty fifty either), f5.6 in the long end, and you can see chromatic aberration (easily correctable in LR or equivalent). The IS is good, but not as good as the 70-200.

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Jul 29, 2015 09:26 |  #12

So the STM means standard motor, and the USM means ultra sonic motor or something like that?

In terms of physical size, is the 18-200 a lot bigger than the 18-135?


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Jul 29, 2015 09:34 |  #13

Rockrz wrote in post #17648172 (external link)
Actually, I just found this same lens for $419 at
https://www.42photo.co​m …abilizer-lens-72mm-/14696 (external link)

So, I guess I need to shop a bit before purchasing

Be careful with 42nd Street Photo. I have found that a lot of their low prices are actually on gray market items, which will not have manufacturer's warranties. If you want to roll those dice, fine, but you should know what you are getting into.

I have a Tamron superzoom with a range that is covered by other lenses that I own, but there are indeed times when I cannot, or do not want to, haul multiple lenses around. People correctly point out that these lenses involve compromises in IQ, but you have to decide if you can live with these compromises and how often you might actually benefit from the advantages of superzooms.

The biggest problems with the superzoom I own, according to many reviews, are barrel distortion at the short end, and chromatic aberration. It turns out that a few clicks in the Lightroom Lens correction panel remove all evidence of these distortions. So, while a combination of two shorter-range zooms might provide marginal improvements in IQ, if you are not a pixel peeper or printer of very large prints, you should not dismiss superzooms out of hand.


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Jul 29, 2015 09:37 |  #14

STM is a Stepper Motor (high precision digitally controlled motor). Not a standard toy motor. It seems to be the way Canon is going for non-L lenses.

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Jul 29, 2015 09:52 |  #15

Rockrz wrote in post #17648517 (external link)
Currently I have the Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens that came with my camera kit, and I also have the EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM lens which works pretty good but is gigantic!

I was hoping the Canon EF-S 18-200mm could be a good middle of the road lens so to speak.

While the EF-S 18-135mm STM is a good lens, considering the two lenses you already own, I still think just adding a EF-S 55-250mm STM for telephoto use would make for a nice kit. If you decide on the 18-135, then I would consider selling either the 18-55mm STM or 24-105L and adding the 55-250mm STM. Otherwise, you'll have a lot of overlap in functionality between the 18-55, 18-135 and 24-105L and still be lacking longer reach. All three lenses would be different versions of general purpose walk around zooms -- how many of those do you need?


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