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Jul 28, 2015 14:23 |  #3046

Shutterbug2006 wrote in post #17646897 (external link)
One more thing (and completely different): Shooting indoors, midday in an ice cream parlor but with transparent wall/glass, the person sitting in front of me, shouldn't 1/100 of sec be enough? It is a person, not a machine gun...


Generally, No.

To keep lens & camera shake from messing up your images, you need to maintain a high shutter speed on high density crop cameras like the 7D and 7D Mark II. Plus you say you were shooting through a transparent wall/glass - and that will likely prevent your AF system from locking focus where it should.

When in doubt, crank up your shutter speed and let your ISO go up.

Thanks! That's somewhat of a bummer. I don't like raising the ISO if I can help it. Any rule of thumb for the shutter speed similar to 1/focal point?
What I meant about the glass was that there was outdoor light coming in, rather than only indoor lighting.

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Jul 28, 2015 14:44 |  #3047

The 7DII can easily handle iso"s way past iso160, it will surprise you, it was built to do so and there are thousands of images to show you the way. I shoot in the darkest of places.!! with out any artificial lighting with super results. Maybe its time to give it a go, and let go of the days of old. you really have nothing to lose.

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Or if your looking for super slow in the dark, Canon EOS 7D Mark II, EF100-400mm, 1/40 ƒ/5.6, iso1250

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Jul 29, 2015 05:19 as a reply to  @ Pondrader's post |  #3048

That's some wonderful stuff you have at your backyard :-)
I am used to having the lowest shutter speed I need in case that's not my priority so I'll start giving it a try.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:55 as a reply to  @ SHR202's post |  #3049

Shooting the 7D last year your "Low and slow approach is exactly how I found my self shooting, low iso and slow shutter will only get you so far, you"ll shoot thousands of images to get a handful. inevitably something is in motion. The 7DII is a game changer, experiment with it and you will be very delighted with your result.


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Jul 29, 2015 09:41 |  #3050

Pondrader wrote in post #17647704 (external link)
The 7DII can easily handle iso"s way past iso160, it will surprise you, it was built to do so and there are thousands of images to show you the way. I shoot in the darkest of places.!! with out any artificial lighting with super results. Maybe its time to give it a go, and let go of the days of old. you really have nothing to lose.

Completely agree. and while I wouldn't recommend it, its amazing how clean an image looks even at ISO 16000! Its far from the completely speckled mess one might expect. Certainly images are quite usable up to ISO 3200 with little noise on this camera.


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Jul 29, 2015 09:46 as a reply to  @ SHR202's post |  #3051

The rule of thumb with this sensor is 'don't under expose'.

Experiment with shooting at high ISO with proper or ETTR exposure and the camera will not let you down.

It will get very noisey, very quickly if you underexpose.

personally, I try to do 2x the focal length, but this is very much a YMMV.


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Jul 30, 2015 02:00 |  #3052

Pondrader wrote in post #17647704 (external link)
The 7DII can easily handle iso"s way past iso160, it will surprise you, it was built to do so and there are thousands of images to show you the way. I shoot in the darkest of places.!! with out any artificial lighting with super results. Maybe its time to give it a go, and let go of the days of old. you really have nothing to lose.

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Very cool.


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Jul 30, 2015 13:05 |  #3053

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Just got a new 7D MarkII & looking for suggestions on auto focus settings for motorsports. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I shoot karts from the racing surface.


my 7DII is setup as follows.

Case 4 / Tracking +1 / Accel.decel +2
AF-On to focus
* to focus for panning shots and Tracking set to 0.

Camera is left in M with Auto ISO.
What that means is when using AF-On for head on or "lifestyle" shots in the pits and grid I adjust Shutter and Aperture to suit.
I hold the * for panning shots which sets the shutter to 1/250 aperture to 9-13 depending on light and lens.

Essentially two shooting modes at my disposal depending on what button I press.

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Jul 30, 2015 14:07 |  #3054

that is a cool feature


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Jul 30, 2015 14:21 as a reply to  @ smythie's post |  #3055

Yes, its nice to have. It's implemented slightly different on the 1DMK4. Ultimately, I think its better on the 7D2 because of the sheer amount of options you can change.

On my 1d4 I stay in AV mode. And simply adjust Aperture to suit and focus with AF-On.
When I press * it actually changes to TV mode where the shutter is set to 1/200 or 1/250.

(it's hard to pan karts any slower since there isn't any suspension to speak of and they tend to bounce all over the track).

Ideally, I would like to change modes on the 7D2 between buttons too, but M with Auto ISO is an adequate substitute so long as I watch my meter throughout the day.

One other advantage on the 7DII when I shoot this way is having Exposure Comp available in both modes. On the 1D4 the EC has to be set for the * mode. The 7DII allows the same EC between AF-On and * or completely different. I suppose this is address in the 1Dx but I haven't used one yet. At any rate -1/3 EC is great when the all black electric kart class is on track. :)

I only use the 1D4 as a backup and with my 24-70 for podium shots now.


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Jul 31, 2015 05:17 |  #3056

ksbal wrote in post #17648649 (external link)
The rule of thumb with this sensor is 'don't under expose'.

Experiment with shooting at high ISO with proper or ETTR exposure and the camera will not let you down.

It will get very noisey, very quickly if you underexpose.

personally, I try to do 2x the focal length, but this is very much a YMMV.

Thanks! I will give it a shoot. That's quite different from what I was used to with my XSi.




  
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Jul 31, 2015 05:49 |  #3057

Well, I've had my 7D2 for a week now and am happy to report that there is NOT a focusing issue.


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Jul 31, 2015 10:28 as a reply to  @ tonyxcom's post |  #3058

Yeh the * as a second BBAF with different settings is very cool. Just one thing I wish is they allowed you to override the shooting mode, ie force to high speed continuous on it. Sure if should just be a firmware upgrade to implement.


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Jul 31, 2015 11:45 |  #3059

I've been using the similar set up on 1D bodies for some years, have to admit I did not even realize the 7D2 had it! I shoudl have, given that the 7D2 is the "pocket size" 1D! :)


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Jul 31, 2015 12:10 |  #3060

Lester Wareham wrote in post #17651317 (external link)
Yeh the * as a second BBAF with different settings is very cool. Just one thing I wish is they allowed you to override the shooting mode, ie force to high speed continuous on it. Sure if should just be a firmware upgrade to implement.

I was thinking the same thing the other day and spent time trying to see if it was possible but I don't believe it is. While I have the AF-on button set for "normal" back button focusing, I also have the * button explicitly set for back button focusing with AI Servo and Zone AF. Not being able to also automatically switch to high speed continuous at the same time seems to be a significant limit on this otherwise incredibly useful functionality.


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