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Jul 29, 2015 14:20 |  #1

Hello, I mainly shoot landscapes here in Hawaii and the occasional wedding. I'm considering the switch mainly for the incredible dynamic range of the Nikon. I was wondering who all has done this and if there's a good list of pros and cons. I love Canon and their lenses, but the DR isn't even in the same ballpark. I've processed RAWs from a lot of different bodies for people so I've seen the major difference, especially with landscapes. As far as a lens line-up, I'm thinking of going with the 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200 and see where it takes me. I realize Nikon has nothing like the Canon 135L, but that's a small sacrifice I'm willing to make for the performance. I've also heard people say they don't like Nikon's skin tone rendering but I always use a custom X-Rite profile and only shoot RAW, so I think I should have the same colors and they'll be accurate. The 5DSR is very very tempting for me and I love Canon's ease of use and ergonomics, but I can't see paying that much for something with over 2 stops less DR than the competition. "Ive thought about the Sony, but using an adapter is just not something I see as reliable especially with the humidity and salt air here in Hawaii, not to mention the lack of a good AF system that I would count on for a wedding. That being said, anyone want to buy any gear ;)


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Jul 29, 2015 14:48 |  #2

I used the 810 for weddings and events for a while and found the files to be almost TOO big. It was nice to have the 36 MP for portraits but for general event coverage, it was too much. I find the d750 to be much more of a event camera.

Can't be the 810 for landscapes though....


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Jul 29, 2015 14:59 as a reply to  @ sourcehill's post |  #3

I just built a new computer to deal with the larger files too.......figured I'd end up with the D810 or the 5DSR :) Big files anyway you slice it.


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Jul 29, 2015 15:05 |  #4

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I used the 810 for weddings and events for a while and found the files to be almost TOO big. It was nice to have the 36 MP for portraits but for general event coverage, it was too much. I find the d750 to be much more of a event camera.

Can't be the 810 for landscapes though....

isnt there an option to shoot smaller compressed raws?

as for skin tones, yes it's true IMO, canon is simply the best. The DR and usability of canon has improved with the 5Ds line, so it's still plenty good for landscapes and top notch for portraits. With nikon, the landscapes will be marginally better than canon, and portraits, canon wins slightly IMO. Price point, nikon? D810's are cheap these days.

btw, I dont like Xrite as a solution, especially if you tend to shoot without controlled lighting. If you do control every aspect of your lighting, then it wont be an issue (I hate flash).


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Jul 29, 2015 15:13 as a reply to  @ Charlie's post |  #5

I don't use the color checker for every shoot, I just use it to make a dual illuminant color profile. It seems much more accurate than my adobe standard profile in all lighting I've thrown at it. I tried using the Adobe DNG editor, but the profile just doesn't look as nice to me anyways. There is a 2 stop difference in DR which is just huge for landscapes or if you're doing real estate


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Jul 30, 2015 00:16 |  #6

The main disadvantage of moving to Nikon is that you can't use Canon lenses on them. That's why I shoot Sony. If you can do without Canon lenses (e.g. tilt shifts or certain supertelephotos) there's very little downside to moving to Nikon

That said, you may want to see what Nikon brings out next before you buy. The D810 is essentially a minor update of a three-and-a-half year old camera, and it shouldn't be too long before the next model comes out, using the next-generation Sony sensor.

With regards to colour, I find Canon's white balance to be way too warm in most situations. Sony/Nikon sometimes lean a little to the cool side. Both are easy to correct for. Regarding skin tones, it's true that Canon seems to give a better rendering - for paler Caucasian skin tones. Nikon/Sony can look a bit blue straight out of camera. However, for darker and middle Subcontinental and Middle Eastern skin tones, the opposite seems to be true - Nikon gives a better rendering, while Canon makes darker skin look too yellow and/or red. For East Asian skin tones, it's pretty much a wash, depending on the exact colour and undertones of each individual's skin. Can't really comment on typical African skin tones, since I mostly shoot landscapes and wildlife while travelling and we don't have a large African-descent population here in Australia.




  
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Jul 30, 2015 11:45 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #7

I was really looking into the A7RII last night it will probably be a far better camera than the 5DSR. Do you have many troubles with the adapters? I've heard a lot of them failing in the field and people carry a backup $400 adapter. You buy 2 of those, that's $800 on top of the body


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Jul 30, 2015 12:21 |  #8

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I was really looking into the A7RII last night it will probably be a far better camera than the 5DSR. Do you have many troubles with the adapters? I've heard a lot of them failing in the field and people carry a backup $400 adapter. You buy 2 of those, that's $800 on top of the body

I've never had one fail on me.

Mechanically and electrically, they're as simple as you can get. No moving parts and the only electrical components are connectors.

Also, when the A7r came out, Sony Australia was giving out a free Metabones adapter of your choice with each body.




  
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Jul 30, 2015 13:15 as a reply to  @ Shadowblade's post |  #9

Can anyone elaborate on the Sony 14 bit RAW files? Is it an issue at all? My thoughts are when you print, it needs to be converted into 8 bit anyways? Why don't they just give you a true RAW file?


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Jul 30, 2015 13:19 |  #10

If, in your landscape shooting, you expose for your highlights - or maybe over expose them by a stop - and you open your shadows and darks, you'll be stunned and excited. ;) Shoot at iso 50. Your jaw will drop.


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Jul 30, 2015 13:20 as a reply to  @ ptcanon3ti's post |  #11

Yep, such impressive RAW files!


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Jul 31, 2015 03:51 |  #12

I bought a little Nikon d5500 and right away I could see the difference in low ISO dynamic range over my Canon bodies.It's only the love I have for my 135L and my 70-200f2.8 MKII that keeps my with Canon or I'd switch brands in a heartbeat.Man if your a landscaper I'd say do it!!!


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Jul 31, 2015 11:49 as a reply to  @ PNPhotography's post |  #13

I'm thinking now I may just go for the Sony A7RII. Can keep my Canon glass, 42 mp, crazy ISO performance, and all of that DR :)


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Jul 31, 2015 12:21 |  #14

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17651388 (external link)
I'm thinking now I may just go for the Sony A7RII. Can keep my Canon glass, 42 mp, crazy ISO performance, and all of that DR :)


They say the new adaptors allow almost native focus speed. If thats really true, that would be the way to go.


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Jul 31, 2015 14:05 as a reply to  @ ptcanon3ti's post |  #15

Yep I edited some of the RAW's yesterday.......very impressive images! Super clean even at ISO 3200


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