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Aug 04, 2015 16:45 |  #5941

Still enjoying what this AF system can do. I was only in case 1 which adequate for most steady moving objects but the 7D2 picked out this dragon fly in 65 point zone effortlessly and quickly. Case 6 would have been a better option for this shot but it still did it in case 1. It does not not look great due the crop being pushed so much and maybe I was a little shaky. I have lots of better examples of pushed crops but I'm just showing an example of it's AF ability.

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Aug 04, 2015 20:41 |  #5942

LOL. Came to post this and then saw the post above.

But I just can't get these as sharp as I would like.


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Aug 04, 2015 21:15 |  #5943

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LOL. Came to post this and then saw the post above.

But I just can't get these as sharp as I would like.


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Looks like it is focusing on the weed.

At least the dragonfly is smiling.


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Aug 04, 2015 21:48 |  #5944

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I ran them through a bit of sharpening but you don't have image editing OK posted so I won't post examples. Very shallow DOF on both.

1st image. The stripe part of the body behind the head, especially just before the tail I think is pretty sharp. Agree with what Archibald said. What focus mode did you use? One shot or AI Servo. What AF mode? Single, expanded to zone.? Can you see where the AF point landed? If you focused and recomposed or if wind moved the plant before you shot then it won't help much. Also AI Servo can be deceiving when showing.

2nd shot. Was the AF point in the head? Also how steady are you? 1/320 for that type of macro is not very forgiving which can cause micro blur. The slightest movement again by you or the wind combined can make a big difference.

I assume you had the IS on.


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Aug 04, 2015 21:50 |  #5945

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Still enjoying what this AF system can do. I was only in case 1 which adequate for most steady moving objects but the 7D2 picked out this dragon fly in 65 point zone effortlessly and quickly. Case 6 would have been a better option for this shot but it still did it in case 1. It does not not look great due the crop being pushed so much and maybe I was a little shaky. I have lots of better examples of pushed crops but I'm just showing an example of it's AF ability.

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Aug 04, 2015 22:17 |  #5946

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Good shot. I gotta try this. An opportunity to use the other 64 AF points.

Try it. I'm late coming out of the gate testing but the AF system is pretty slick. I experimented with zone in my 7D but gave up on it pretty quickly. Only took one day to see what the 7D2 could do. I was shooting stills across a lake and then noticed them flying around. Everyone wanted to leave so I did not make any changes. Need to try that in zone 5 or 6 and a faster shutter speed. If I want pin point I'll still use single point or expansion depending subject.

I think my lens (shot that with my 100-400) and that camera are dialled in now. I now can go out and trust it will produce when I need it to. It only really needed any serious MFA with the extender. We are going to Costa Rica this winter and I'm not making any changes. Not one. Just gonna keep myself tuned up.


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Aug 05, 2015 00:12 |  #5947

This is how we do it in Canada. Annual dock party last Sunday. It was over 32 Celsius the previous Monday and it dropped like a rock by that day but we are tough.

7D2 and 100-400 VII. Shot from my dock and I joined them later.

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We used it to build a Tiki Bar. The fellow in the red shorts has his hand on it. I helped the owner of the dock who found an old dead tree on a river and we cut two 6" thick slabs for the table top. Each piece was 51" in diameter.

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Aug 05, 2015 16:08 |  #5950

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I ran them through a bit of sharpening but you don't have image editing OK posted so I won't post examples. Very shallow DOF on both.

1st image. The stripe part of the body behind the head, especially just before the tail I think is pretty sharp. Agree with what Archibald said. What focus mode did you use? One shot or AI Servo. What AF mode? Single, expanded to zone.? Can you see where the AF point landed? If you focused and recomposed or if wind moved the plant before you shot then it won't help much. Also AI Servo can be deceiving when showing.

2nd shot. Was the AF point in the head? Also how steady are you? 1/320 for that type of macro is not very forgiving which can cause micro blur. The slightest movement again by you or the wind combined can make a big difference.

I assume you had the IS on.

Thanks for the feedback. I don't have time right now to go back and take a close look at the photos to answer your questions. Maybe, later tonight. I do want to learn more.

Right now, I need to go find where you turn on that editing is okay. I don't mind people editing my posts when trying to help me.

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Just write it in your sig or mention it in the post that it concerns.

Thank you, I was coming back to ask where. I even looked at the FAQ and it said something about a flag in CP but I think that was with the old forum software and not in the newer one. Never could find such a flag.

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Thank you, I was coming back to ask where. I even looked at the FAQ and it said something about a flag in CP but I think that was with the old forum software and not in the newer one. Never could find such a flag.

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Thank you, I was coming back to ask where. I even looked at the FAQ and it said something about a flag in CP but I think that was with the old forum software and not in the newer one. Never could find such a flag.

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I had to push a sharpening a bit but wanted to show it was not badly OOF.

The head is not too bad. Look at the right wing tip.

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Here you can see the body is in focus. Just a DOF and AF point placement issue. Typically you want the head/face in focus sacrificing the rest with shallow DOF.

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Aug 05, 2015 21:47 |  #5955

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I ran them through a bit of sharpening but you don't have image editing OK posted so I won't post examples. Very shallow DOF on both.

1st image. The stripe part of the body behind the head, especially just before the tail I think is pretty sharp. Agree with what Archibald said. What focus mode did you use? One shot or AI Servo. What AF mode? Single, expanded to zone.? Can you see where the AF point landed? If you focused and recomposed or if wind moved the plant before you shot then it won't help much. Also AI Servo can be deceiving when showing.

2nd shot. Was the AF point in the head? Also how steady are you? 1/320 for that type of macro is not very forgiving which can cause micro blur. The slightest movement again by you or the wind combined can make a big difference.

I assume you had the IS on.

Okay, I looked at what the settings were for each photo. I was changing things up and experimenting when taking these. The first one was with my normal "sports" setting. I was in AI Servo using back button focusing. I was using a point expanded to 8. And I missed the head with the center point and hit the body behind the head, right where you said.

The second one was AI servo but I was using spot AF and the edge of the spot was on the head. IS was on for both shots.

I think if I shoot some more dragonflies, I am going to go with single shot and either spot or point AF. Also, I am not going to take it so late in the evening so I have more light and I can close down the aperture the get more dof. Looks like with these macro type shots you have thinner dof than I am used to when shooting sports at more distance. Also, I will try to keep the shutterspeed up when handholding for these shots.

Just need to experiment more.

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