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How to get accurate color, raw-jpeg in Lightroom?

 
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Aug 05, 2015 14:35 |  #1

Need to get accurate color for a photo session and wonder how to do that. The output need to be in JPEG AdobeRGB. I use a Canon 6D shooting in RAW mode and using a Eizo CS240CAL calibrated monitor with 99% AdobeRGB space. Software Mac OSX ML and Lightroom 5.

What do you think about this workflow:

1. Using a QPCard203 color chart in first photo for camera calibration
2. Use that photo and calibrate rest of photo session in Lightroom 5
3. Crop(if needed) and sharp the photos
4. Export jpeg in AdobeRGB color space
5. Done?

Anything I need to be aware of? I am still a noob regarding getting color accuracy during photographing.




  
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Aug 05, 2015 15:00 |  #2

Do you print using your own aRGB-capable printer, or do you use a commercial printer which directly prints aRGB files without first converting them to sRGB?!


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Aug 05, 2015 15:09 |  #3

If I want accurate skin tones, I use this...http://xritephoto.com …uct_overview.as​px?id=1257 (external link)


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Aug 05, 2015 19:13 |  #4

Wilt wrote in post #17657735 (external link)
Do you print using your own aRGB-capable printer, or do you use a commercial printer which directly prints aRGB files without first converting them to sRGB?!

Please reply to the question, as you may very well be wasting YOUR time by choosing aRGB when your understanding of color space and final output is incomplete as a newbie!


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Aug 06, 2015 01:19 |  #5

Wilt is right.
Your monitor may be Adobe RGB capable, but is it the only monitor on which the image will be seen? Also, will every other viewer be using color managed software and a calibrated monitor - no phones or tablets, for instance? Will the image only be displayed electronically or will it also be reproduced on paper? If yes, by whom and on what print machine? These are all important considerations in choosing an output color space.


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Aug 09, 2015 15:09 |  #6

Well, a bit late to the discussion!

I'll say at the start that I'm not a portrait "shooter", don't do organized sessions, that type of thing, so here come the ramblings of an uninformed inexperienced lunatic...

One thing that hasn't been mentioned, though, is the interesting practice, even of those shooting Raw, to start out doing a Custom White Balance, making sure you are using the same lights as for the "session". Also, using lights that are proved to be "good" (good color "temperatures that "match" the other lights), and sure you mention other tools that have a good rep.

The interesting thing, is that each of those elements can be crucial for shooting film or shooting jpegs, for those shooting Raw a whole new world has opened up. Still, getting the right "starting point can be quite helpful, but then from there the real "digital darkroom" opens up with a wide variety of choices. Of course, the choices you make will require a lot of understanding of what you are working with, and then experience, practice, learn, and keep doing so "forever"!

The point that has made of choosing sRGB as your output color space, not aRGB, is important to understand. If you don't understand, reply back here and ASK!!!


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Aug 09, 2015 19:51 |  #7

The easiest way is with an xRite Passport color checker and the included SW. You take a photo of the chart with the lighting you will use and use the resulting image to build a LR or PhotoshopRAW profile for your camera that is color correct for that shooting session. I got mine onsale for $79 last year.


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Aug 10, 2015 02:19 |  #8

bsmotril wrote in post #17662743 (external link)
The easiest way is with an xRite Passport color checker and the included SW. You take a photo of the chart with the lighting you will use and use the resulting image to build a LR or PhotoshopRAW profile for your camera that is color correct for that shooting session. I got mine onsale for $79 last year.

The OP wrote that he has and uses a QP Card 203 which is a 35 patch card roughly equivalent to the Color Checker although not well known to Americans - it is made in Sweden. It is also cheaper, as I remember i paid $50 for the card about 5 years ago. The software for making the DNG Camera Profile is a free download.


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Aug 12, 2015 14:06 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #9

Sorry for late reply. Im gathering more information from the client. The output files have to be delivered in aRGB. I am going to document a manufacturing process.




  
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Aug 12, 2015 14:08 |  #10

Thanks for the input all. Im feeling a bit loost and really appreciate all your knowledge.




  
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