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Aug 14, 2015 10:34 as a reply to  @ post 17668296 |  #16

Thanks so much for all of that feedback! It's good to hear :). I've been bracketing and blending for years in Photoshop and using GND's if the scene permits it. I don't see why you can't hand hold this camera either.....just would want IS or really fast shutter speeds like anything else


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Aug 14, 2015 14:27 as a reply to  @ post 17668296 |  #17

Having a 6x17 film camera would also be amazing! I really wish they had a digital one to play with


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Aug 14, 2015 23:20 |  #18

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Having a 6x17 film camera would also be amazing! I really wish they had a digital one to play with


here is a pic of one.......Havnt looked at them for a while but last time I checked they were circa 30k$....And they were still slow...The sensor took over 1 second to scan so couldnt really do any shots with movement ...Everything had to be dead still. Hopefully as times change the technology will get better and faster


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Aug 14, 2015 23:24 as a reply to  @ clipper_from_oz's post |  #19

Ya, I've seen the scan ones.....would be useful in the mountains or something stationary I suppose, but not for 30k


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Aug 15, 2015 00:55 as a reply to  @ Canon_Shoe's post |  #20

IS MK2 is the key to handheld .. FYI as I mentioned in another post I had to upgrade my mk1's with is which was a costly excercise( all told with body cost and 2 lens upgraded16-35 and 100-400 approx $9kaud) however after doing that handheld photography was a lot better .... To the point it's only when I want to grab an action/ wildlife shot with the 5dsr and the 100-400 do I sometimes have to use ISO's that I normally wouldn't use like 1600... But I didn't buy it for that I bought it for landscapes and that's where the 50 mg beast excels itself.... Combine it with a 16-35 or canons tilt/ shift lens and it doesn't get much better .... That's unless medium format photographers shooting phase one backs have a tilt shift lens in their kit or decide instead to persevere with a bellows setup and digital back.

Btw.... I just printed/proofed a 5dsr landscape on my new Epsom p600 at finished size 300mm x 900 mm( cropped 5dsr image to be same as 6x17=3:1 ) and it's as good if not better in iq than my 6x17 using asa 50 velvia film, 90mm rodestock lens and scanning by imacon..... And that says a lot because it means the canon 16-35 lens is holding its own when subjected to the higher resolving power of the 5dsr 50 meg sensor..... Not so good on wide 16mm edges but certainly good at around 22 - 35

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Aug 15, 2015 12:48 as a reply to  @ clipper_from_oz's post |  #21

That's awesome! Would love to see the image! I've been wondering what say 5 shot panorama would look like with the 5DSR? Has to just be incredible amounts of detail! When I get a pano over 50mp with my 6D, it seems to take on a new dimension of reality


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Aug 15, 2015 22:18 |  #22

Anyone else with a 5DS-R have an issue seeing thumbnails images of cr2 files in windows explorer? In windows explorer I can see thumbnail images of my 5d3 cr2 files, but not the 5dsr ones, so I was just curious if anyone else had similar issue. I am using 64 bit windows 7.


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Aug 16, 2015 03:15 |  #23

you may need to install a new codec for Windows to read the 5DS CR2 files


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Aug 16, 2015 06:06 |  #24

For what it's worth... I recently purchased a 7DII and my Photoshop Elements 11 didn't want to know about the .CR2 RAW files from that camera. Elements 11 would open .CR2 RAW files from my T2i, 60D and 7D, but not the 7DII. So I had to get Elements 13 and even then I had to do an update after I installed to get the latest Adobe camera RAW.


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Aug 16, 2015 06:28 as a reply to  @ CaptB412's post |  #25

In order to see thumbnails in file explorer, you have to download a driver from Canon. As memory serves, that software is on the software section on the particular camera model's page.

Edit: I looked up more info. It is a Microsoft (or Canon) Raw Camera Codec that allows camera RAWs to have previewed thumbnails. I don't see any that specifically lists the 5DS: since it's relatively new, could be that the codec isn't out yet.


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Aug 16, 2015 12:41 |  #26

davesrose wrote in post #17670618 (external link)
In order to see thumbnails in file explorer, you have to download a driver from Canon. As memory serves, that software is on the software section on the particular camera model's page.

Edit: I looked up more info. It is a Microsoft (or Canon) Raw Camera Codec that allows camera RAWs to have previewed thumbnails. I don't see any that specifically lists the 5DS: since it's relatively new, could be that the codec isn't out yet.

I saw this as well. The problem is that it looks like microsoft hasn't updated the codec in quite some time. Thank you though.


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Aug 16, 2015 21:11 |  #27

I'm really surprised at how much I see the 5DS/5DSR that is negative (and in my experience actually using them, often times completely wrong), usually written by people who have never used one.

I had two 6Ds, two 5D IIIs, and a 7D II, and also a 1DX. I sold my two 6Ds when I bought my 5DSR. After shooting a concert from soundboard, using the 7D II, 5D IIIs, 1DX, and 5DSR, swapping lenses around to compare apples to apples, I sold the 7D II - the 7D II image quality was just strikingly lower in comparison, and the "reach" advantage evaporated.

The ability to crop on this camera is stunning - I can take a shot of a drummer from soundboard and crop down to the end of his microphone and have details of the grill on the end.

Using it a lot since launch, I just sold my two 5D IIIs to get a second 5DSR.

I hate the term "game changer", but that is what it is for me. I am NOT a studio photographer.

The files from the 5DSR just look SOOOOO much better. Even going through my shots in Lightroom, I can immediately identify (without zooming) which shots were with the 5DSR and which were with my other (lower res) bodies. They are just so much richer, and I like the color better too.

I do mostly action photography, oftentimes in challenging light, sometimes from a distance, and almost always handheld, and I've not had any of the problems that others seem to speculate about who have never used a 5DS/R.

To me, it's essentially a 5D Mark III with more than double the resolution and better quality images.

My only problem was just having one 5DSR body. Since I am often time constrained, I like to have multiple bodies to be ready with different lenses, so it was hard for me to decide which lens to pair with the 5DSR. So essentially trading in two 5D IIIs for one additional 5DSR I guess says a lot about how I feel about the camera.

I love it with the 300mm f/2.8 II and the 100mm L macro the best.

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Aug 16, 2015 23:08 |  #28

CaptB412 wrote in post #17670974 (external link)
I saw this as well. The problem is that it looks like microsoft hasn't updated the codec in quite some time. Thank you though.

Well after the rumored August announcements, and Windows 10 updates, the 5DS codec should be coming out relatively shortly.


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Aug 16, 2015 23:51 as a reply to  @ RockSubculture's post |  #29

Reviews like this are what I love! If people take 500 amazing tack sharp, 50mp shots with this camera, then they'll complain about the file size! I really would love to shoot with this body. Does anyone have any sample RAW images they'd like to upload for us to play with until we can get this body?


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Aug 17, 2015 00:19 |  #30

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17668060 (external link)
Very interesting! That's very good information to know really! I've wondered why it isn't 16 bit?

16 bit A/D converters which are fully linear to 16 bits are still very expensive for use in consumer systems. The ones used in audio aren't optimized for reading imaging sensors.

What many people don't appreciate is that modern digital cameras are really pushing the state of the art in electronics including sensor efficiency and read noise. Generally if you improve in one area (such as low ISO) you sacrifice in another (high ISO). We need another generation or two of technology advancement to achieve full 16 bit quality in consumer DSLRs. And then people will start whinging about "why not 18 bit?".  :p


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